Mount Meru. Is there a magnetic mountain at the North pole?

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The north pole as we know it today is a barren place, wind swept ice fields and the occasional polar bear. The concept of "North" has been an integral part of man's expansion and journeys through out history. Navigation is made much more possible when one can reference a fixed point. With the use of magnetism and a compass sailing ships to this day chart courses all over the world. In the process of mastering this technique, science has concluded that magnetism is caused by electromagnetic currents generated from with in the earth, something akin to a giant dynamo. Is this the true origin of the 'magnetic north' phenomena though, or could there be another explanation. Many ancient cultures speak of a great magnetic mountain at the centre(top) of the earth known as Mount Meru or Sumeru. But is there any recent evidence to support this claim?

Mount Meru

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Mount Meru (Sanskrit: मेरु, Tibetan: ཪི་རྒྱལ་པོ་རི་རབ་, Sumeru, Sineru or Mahameru) is the sacred five-peaked mountain of Hindu, Jain, and Buddhist cosmology and is considered to be the center of all the physical, metaphysical and spiritual universes. The dimensions attributed to Mount Meru, all references to it being as a part of the Cosmic Ocean, with several statements that say, "The Sun along with all the planets circle the mountain," make determining its location most difficult, according to most scholars. -Wikipedia.

The origins of Mount Meru are old and its true meaning lost to the ravages of time. However researchers like Wal Thornhill of the Thunderbolts Project hypothesize that the sky looked very different during earlier epochs than it does today. Planets such as Jupiter, Venus, mars and Mercury were in a completely different configuration than they are today. A sort of planetary alignment persisted in the past, our own planet was included in this formation and the electrical discharge passing between worlds was seen by all peoples on earth. The religions that sprang up during this time were born out of a need to explain and communicate what had been witnessed. The earth rotating on a central axial shaft, an electrical current of plasma tapering upward like a mountain peak. A time where an electrically energized atmosphere imbued all living beings with health and longevity. A harmonious time for all who dwelt here on earth. A golden age.

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So the Buddhists believe this place exists. Is there any other mention of such a location. Perhaps if we found a European source this might help to strengthen the case. For that we turn to Gerardus Mercator, who in his portrait is prominently displaying the north pole on a atlas.

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Orontius Finnaeus another big name in cartography from the same era includes Mount Meru on his projection. Very much the same dimensions and layout. A central peak surrounded by water and beyond that four islands separated by four rivers.

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So whats going on here guys? Is this a real place now covered over by frozen ice sheets? Not so long ago people seemed to know of its existence and had quite accurate charts to show off as well. So what about these magnetic traits? Map historian Chet Van Duzer of Berkley University has this to say about Mercator's understanding of the North pole:

At the center of the map, and right at the Pole, stands a huge black mountain; this mountain was made of lodestone, and was the source of the earth’s magnetic field. The central mountain is surrounded by open water, and then further out by four large islands that form a ring around the Pole. The largest of these islands perhaps 700 by 1100 miles, and they all have high mountains along their southern rims. These islands are separated by four large inward-flowing rivers, which are aligned as if to the four points of the compass– though of course there is no north, east, or west at the North Pole: every direction from this center is south. Mercator’s notes inform us that the waters of the oceans are carried northward to the Pole through these rivers with great force, such that no wind could make a ship sail against the current. The waters then disappear into an enormous whirlpool beneath the mountain at the Pole, and are absorbed into the bowels of the earth. Mercator also tells us that four-foot tall Pygmies inhabit the island closest to Europe.
Mercator describes the mountain as made of Lodestone. What exactly is lodestone though?

A lodestone is a naturally magnetized piece of the mineral magnetite. They are naturally occurring magnets, which can attract iron. The property of magnetism was first discovered in antiquity through lodestones. Pieces of lodestone, suspended so they could turn, were the first magnetic compasses, and their importance to early navigation is indicated by the name lodestone, which in Middle English means 'course stone' or 'leading stone', from the now-obsolete meaning of lode as ‘journey, way’. -Wikipedia.
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You can begin to see a consistent theme taking shape here. So it was to my great surprise when while reading Olaf Jansen's Story. The Smoky God or a Voyage to the Inner World that one passage in particular stood out to me, as this point in his story Olaf and his father have traveled to the the North pole via fishing boat. They have met a race of giants and having spent sometime learning their language have now been taken to the capital city...

The city of "Eden" is located in what seems to be a beautiful valley, yet, in fact, it is on the loftiest mountain plateau of the Inner Continent, several thousand feet higher than any portion of the surrounding country. It is the most beautiful place I have ever beheld in all my travels. In this elevated garden all manner of fruits, vines, shrubs, trees, and flowers grow in riotous profusion.

In this garden four rivers have their source in a mighty artesian fountain. They divide and flow in four directions. This place is called by inhabitants the "navel of the earth," or the beginning, "the cradle of the human race." The names of the rivers are the Euphrates, the Pison, the Gihon, and the Hiddekel.
Olaf Jansen maintained his story was the truth but no one believed him and he was committed to an insane asylum on his return to Europe. Here in this passage Olaf describes a central city ..."on the loftiest mountain plateau of the inner Continent..." this must be Mount Meru. He then describes four great rivers that originate from this central point, "...The names of the rivers are the Euphrates, the Pison, the Gihon, and the Hiddekel." Count 'em folks, that's four rivers. Yeah maybe Olaf was an avid scholar and had fabricated his story from the same source material I've provided above or you know there might actually be a giant magnetic mountain at the north pole surrounded by four Islands separated by great rivers.

Conclusion

Just to recap, we have an ancient account of a central mountain at the north pole and very much more recent European maps describing in great detail a central magnetic mountain surrounded by four almost symmetrical islands. We halve Olaf Jansen supporting these claims and we have recent cosmological research in the form of the electric universe adding further validity. There is one last thing however. Lodestone mountains and symmetrically spaced islands are all good and well but to truly believe that this could be a real place it does need some type of geological explanation. I mean nothing like this exists in the known world. Natural geological processes aren't exactly concerned with symmetry so how could this all have formed?

Taking everything into account, the electric universe concept of the sky mountain (an electrical phenomena) and the (physical) site of mount Meru need not be mutually exclusive. Imagine if you will this golden age. The planets slowly shift into alignment and enormous bands of electricity begin to discharge between the heavenly bodies. As the alignment of planets synchronizes, the electrical discharge further energizes becoming a constant uninterrupted stream. This solid flow of electricity terminates at a central point on the earths surface, in this case what is known as the North pole. This 'termination point' begins to either draw in all magnetic material from the planets surface or magnetize the ground directly beneath it. As time passes this material fuses under the intense heat and pressure slowly morphing. Now there finally comes a point where the planets fall out of alignment and the discharges are broken. The electrical current dissipates and what is left is an enormous upward pointing slag heap. Magnetized of course. And the surrounding landmass has formed into four symmetrical islands with deep crevices separating them. The water then flows in and now you are left with a Magnetic mountain and four evenly spaced islands.
 

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I have read something in reference to the Meru being an integral part of the gigantic spaceship "Planet Earth". It was like 10 years ago or so, so I need to find it to get the main point of the article, which I do not remember.

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On a separate note, It could be hypothesized that the Earth has changed quite a lot. In my opinion not that long ago, judging by all them not so old maps. Then again, we do not know how old those maps actually are, and if all of them are just copies of some 30k year old maps.

The question is where this mountain could go. Is it still there and we are not allowed to see it, or it’s gone?

Another one - was it really a mountain or something else?
 

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I’ve heard about the reactor theory controlled by some Pyramids in the Eastern Syberia. The ones destroyed along with forests and cities out there.

As far as artificial goes, everything we have could be artificial. Some things are just less obvious.
Yeah thats quite interesting. Where did u read thst? If be interested to hear more if u can remember.
Will look for it. Pretty interesting story, but way too crazy. Though, who knows what crazy is these days.
 

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The whole magnitism thing is superfluous and misleading in the first place. Electricity creates magnets or electrified objects. Electricity is the force applied therefore its the force causing the attributes of the magnet. In other words there is no magnetism just electricity. Electricity creates polarity and an electric field with the object. The reason why a compass works is because the magnet inside the compass and the earth itself are electrified objects. Even wiki under compass says the earth has a magnetic (i. e. electric) field. No loadstones required. The compass simultaneously points to both the north and south poles of the earth because that is the attraction /repulsion properties created by electrified objects. All objects in the solar system are electrified (i. e. magnets).
 

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The whole magnitism thing is superfluous and misleading in the first place. Electricity creates magnets or electrified objects. Electricity is the force applied therefore its the force causing the attributes of the magnet. In other words there is no magnetism just electricity. Electricity creates polarity and an electric field with the object. The reason why a compass works is because the magnet inside the compass and the earth itself are electrified objects. Even wiki under compass says the earth has a magnetic (i. e. electric) field. No loadstones required. The compass simultaneously points to both the north and south poles of the earth because that is the attraction /repulsion properties created by electrified objects. All objects in the solar system are electrified (i. e. magnets).
Slightly off the topic here. What makes you think that the solar system we were told about actually exists in its dogmatic way?
 

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Slightly off the topic here. What makes you think that the solar system we were told about actually exists in its dogmatic way?
In order for nature to work there must be order in place. A set of laws that exist. Electricity is the only force in the universe. It creates polarity and a spherical field. If the force acts that way upon objects on earth it must also work for the earth as well. The earth has 2 poles and an electric (magnetic) field.. It must be spherical and we can see other spherical planets and the sun through telescopes. A compass wouldn't even work if the earth wasnt round. Occasionally meteorites fall to the earth meaning matter exists outside of earth. Spectra graph machines show matter outside the earth. I dont believe what NASA has to say. And since i believe in God and the natural order that exist it wouldnt be in His nature to be deceptive. But it would be in other people's nature, those that don't accept Logos, to be deceptive and confuse people, to convince them that the universe has no order, that life is just a random event, that the earth is flat... So on and so on.
 
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So based off the maps alone, do u think this place may still exist? Who else agrees with Olaf jansen and i that this might a real place?
As long as they keep on cgi-ing videos, and photo-shopping photos from space, I think so. There is a reason we do not see any real pictures of our planet.

I think the place is still where Olaf found it. The question is where was it, as well as what is the real structure of our planet?
 

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I think the Magnetic Mountain also has biblical references -- Ararat, where Noah landed, or somewhere round there has been rumoured to be the same or some other pillar of electromagnetism.

The North and South Poles both are vaults of ancient information which absolutely will not be let out until absolutely necessary, I guarantee it.
 

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I don’t think we know what Mt. Meru was in reality. It could be a mountain, or it could be some sort of structure constructed of metal.

One of the speculative possibilities considered by me was a climate control device. Records show that russian north used to grow pineapples and such. Some of the russian northern cities have camels depicted on their crests. Mammoths are being found frozen with tropical plants undigested.

There is no conventional answer for those questions.

Yet, we have legends of the Mount Meru in the close proximity. Is it still there? Who knows? The area is a strategic point for both USA and Russia.
 

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I've read enough now to know something is seriously fucked.

Here's the thing, whatever wiped out our history, no way did they get everyone who remembered... There is some family or group of people out there who still know the truth by, at a minimum, oral tradition.

Problem is, they'd be viewed as raving lunatics if they went public... We can only hope that one of them start a forum such as this or find their way to a similar outlet and start giving clues.
 
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There is some family or group of people out there who still know the truth by
The st john family is rumoured to be the good guys. There's no real google information avaliable on that mind u. Thw st john family are closely tied to the Knights templar as a hospital guild and to this day run an ambulance service.
 

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My personal opinion on the survivors and their knowledge - they are the ones running the show, in the process providing topics for us to discuss.

Are there other people in the know? Quite a few, I believe, but I doubt their concept is 100% complete.

I think our astronauts definitely know something. They have to.
 

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Not sure I follow @KorbenDallas , I thought the "bad guys" were running the show.
Not sure what made my words come across any other way. Absolutely correct. Bad guys are. And they are the survivor descendants in my opinion.

On the other hand, “bad” is a relative term. They are bad for us for the reasons of hiding and altering our history.

But speaking in hypotheticals, they could be preserving this world from destruction due to the construction of the Second Tower of Babel. That is assuming the Tower as a figure of speech. May be we got whacked in the past due to some knowledge we were not supposed to have. If our civilization tried to visit its creators without the creators’ permission, they could teach us a lesson of why we should not be sticking our noses where they do not belong.
 

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How does the suppression of past energy technologies in favor of what we have now play into it do you think?
 

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I think atmospheric conditions were very different back then. It is highly debatable whether the current conditions can be supported by the technology involving atmospheric electricity. Records show that lightning events were overwhelmingly dominant in the past. Therefore it could probably be assumed that there was more electricity in the surrounding atmosphere.

Another obvious thing suggesting a totally different climate in the recent past is the absence of any sort of heating systems built into the ancient structures.i

Additionally, pretty sure this image gad to be debunked due to the impossibility of tge observed on it :)

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I think atmospheric conditions were very different back then. It is highly debatable whether the current conditions can be supported by the technology involving atmospheric electricity. Records show that lightning events were overwhelmingly dominant in the past. Therefore it could probably be assumed that there was more electricity in the surrounding atmosphere.

Another obvious thing suggesting a totally different climate in the recent past is the absence of any sort of heating systems built into the ancient structures.i

Additionally, pretty sure this image gad to be debunked due to the impossibility of tge observed on it :)

thats the part a sattelite cant see due to its orbit, though its possible they redacted something there too...
 
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