Early Photographic Equipment

It looks like our lack of proper research into the exposure and capability issues of the allegedly early days of photography plays into the mainstream BS narrative story line.
  • I do not believe for a second that these cameras were simply "invented" out of nowhere but that is what this non-advertised story says. I can even guess that just like electric cars later on, these cameras were "not popular", or bad quality, or whatever else.
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And while we all were tricked into thinking that those 1860s-1880s cameras were big, tripoded and required long stationary time due to exposure issues, they played with these ones below + 1. How long do you need to stay still with something like that?

Dagron Microphotographic Camera, c.1860
Dagron microphotographic camera made by René P P Dagron (1819-1900) in France, c. 1860. All-brass camera for multiple microphotographs; 25 lenses in 5x5 arrangement. Repeating back. On pillar and heavy iron base. Critical focusser.
  • John Benjamin Dancer (1812-1887) invented microphotographic process, but they required an expensive microscope to be viewed. Dagron invented a new, less expensive way of viewing microphotographs, by mounting them at the end of a small cylindrical lens. Dagron also designed this camera, which could take multiple microphotographs using 25 lenses in a 5 by 5 arrangement.


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Thompson’s Revolver Camera, 1862
Not all of the unusual cameras of this era focused on concealment, as shown by Thompson’s Revolver Camera. The ‘Revolver Photographique’, was patented in 1862 and made by the Parisian instrument maker A. Briois. The camera made four exposures on a circular glass plate, with the lens being held in the ‘barrel’ of the gun. This allowed the photographer to aim and steady the camera with one hand, using the other hand to operate the controls.
  • There is a story of a similar, earlier model made by a Thomas Skaife, who, upon pointing his pistol-shaped camera at Queen Victoria during a procession, was promptly arrested!
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Fusil Photographique, 1882
And then there's the great Etienne Marey's "Fusil Photographique", as it appeared in La Nature in 1882, which was an early and significant step in the development of cinematography, though again a highly problematic and time-invasive explanation out in public might escape the user:
  • E.J. Marey's photographic rifle of 1882 allowed to take a second, 12 shots at the 1/720° second.
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Photo-Revolver de Poche , 1882
The Photo-Revolver de Poche was invented by E. Enjalbert in Montpellier, France and constructed from 1882-1892. The camera was designed to look and operate like a handgun. The gun cylinder held ten 16 x 16mm dry plates. The image was taken just as if you were shooting a pistol, aim via a sight located on the top of the barrel and pull the trigger which instantaneously exposed the plate. The action of pulling the trigger back allowed the cylinder to be rotated for the next shot. The barrel housed a periscopic 70mm f/10 lens. The Photo-Revolver camera was nickel plated with wood handles just a like a pistol. Due to its inherent hostile appearance and possible misleading interpretation that the photographer was actually trying to kill someone instead of the harmless act of taking a photograph, this placed the photographer at times in jeopardy and so the Photo-Revolver did not fair well on editorial reviews or on the market. It has been reported that only 6 cameras are known to exist, with several replica's existing.

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Magazine Detective Camera c.1885
This ‘Rifle Camera’ was developed by Sands and Hunter in the 1880s. The longer, two-handed design meant it could take a steadier image than the Revolver Camera. It could also take 18 images before being reloaded, a significant increase from the four image limit of the Revolver Camera.

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Stirn’s Secret Camera, 1886
Originally named ‘The Concealed Vest Camera’, patented separately by Robert D. Gray and C.P. Stirn in 1886, this circular metal camera was designed to be worn under the waistcoat with the lens protruding from a button hole. It was made in several models, with this model taking six 40mm diameter circular images on a 140mm circular plate.

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Krugener’s Taschenbuch’ Patent Book Camera, 1888
Invented by German photographer Dr. Rudolf Krugner and produced in Germany by Haake and Albers from 1888, this model was the first of many successful book-shaped cameras. Several thousand were sold in various countries including France, Belgium and Britain. The camera took 24 plates, measuring 40mm squared, in an upper chamber. After exposure these were pushed down into a lower chamber by a metal rod for storage.

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The above camera's including these pre-1900 ones do not even scratch the surface. Mainstream will probably say that they were worthless, but what else is new?
 

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British Artist David Hockney was ridiculed for saying medieval painters where clearly using a camera to make photos to paint from, as a visual aid. This was due to some paintings having the same visual distortions that lenses create. He could however never find a 'camera' as evidence and was of course laughed at.

He then (with his scientist mate) discovered that a concave lens reflects a picture the same as a lens projects one. Voila, he had found his 'camera'. He discovered a 5 inch concave mirror produced a projection around 30cm, the same size as the said painting. You can watch the series, secret knowledge here.


I took this research further & discovered that all you need to make a photogtaph is a concave mirror, a dark box, a flat surface & bitumen of judea, and a bit of time. Length of Time depending on quality of these elements. I traced this process & ellements back to the early 1200s, but I suspect these elements have been present and used by man throughout time.

Below is my hastely put together 1200s 'mirror camera'

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I think, we are looking for cameras, when cameras as we know them to appear, were simply the latest version, rediscovered and aligned with early 1800s ideas, whenever that was.

The camera can be a mirror & magic paint, and a photograph made on any surface. 🙂
 
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    What are Ya All's thoughts on this...how did all these photos and cine get made if cameras were not available???

     

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    On, John Levi's latest video on youtube he speculates that camera are much older than the narrative the controllers have fed us. He hypothesizes that some of the artist renderings are really photos possibly run through old world tech to look like a drawing.

     

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    People in the late 19th century in the West were obsessed with supernatural appearances in photography.

    Conjuring spirits during seances, they would routinely capture images of ectoplasm.

    There has probably always been a supernatural element to these devices. Certainly, elderly Chinese I interviewed once upon a time, would tell me that ordinary folk in the country-side (1920s) were terrified of cameras. But they were the fashion rage in the cities.

    Nowadays, everyone must be in the picture, or they're really out-of-it.

    These devices rank with the TV and the needle as social control devices. That people found they could capture spirits with them probably only proves this point.

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    Maybe all cameras are guns, and every gun a camera. Only the image arrives in reverse. In either case, the subject has been shot.
     
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    I think it's apparent that nothing is discovered or invented unless there is an "official" record of it. Whether or not a place was found or a device created prior is irrelevant. All that our history tells us is when the current system of civilization chose to acknowledge it and provide the legal framework of ownership. Perhaps humanity did not always think in these terms and that is the real trick... that likely took centuries of combating resistance before everyone got on roughly the same page.

    The history of patents, copyright, and trademarks coincides nicely with the establishment of our modern western civilization:
     

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    British Artist David Hockney was ridiculed for saying medieval painters where clearly using a camera to make photos to paint from, as a visual aid. This was due to some paintings having the same visual distortions that lenses create. He could however never find a 'camera' as evidence and was of course laughed at.

    He then (with his scientist mate) discovered that a concave lens reflects a picture the same as a lens projects one. Voila, he had found his 'camera'. He discovered a 5 inch concave mirror produced a projection around 30cm, the same size as the said painting. You can watch the series, secret knowledge here.


    I took this research further & discovered that all you need to make a photogtaph is a concave mirror, a dark box, a flat surface & bitumen of judea, and a bit of time. Length of Time depending on quality of these elements. I traced this process & ellements back to the early 1200s, but I suspect these elements have been present and used by man throughout time.

    Below is my hastely put together 1200s 'mirror camera'


    I think, we are looking for cameras, when cameras as we know them to appear, were simply the latest version, rediscovered and aligned with early 1800s ideas, whenever that was.

    The camera can be a mirror & magic paint, and a photograph made on any surface. 🙂
    Truly incredible! Genius! And you’ve traced cameras back to the 1200s? Wow!
     

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    Certainly, elderly Chinese I interviewed once upon a time, would tell me that ordinary folk in the country-side (1920s) were terrified of cameras.
    Still in the 90's in Morocco too.
    They thought (think) only Allah is allowed to create images or people.
    He hypothesizes that some of the artist renderings are really photos
    I think so too.
    I cannot imagine people from all over the world made exactly the same drawings in a constant quality.
    Like this and this and this .
     

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