1871 Great Chicago Fire: one image, one question...

Officially, the below carnage was caused by the Great 1871 Fire of Chicago. We have extensively talked about various related devastating urban fires before.

At this point I simply wanted to ask one question:
  • In your opinion, what mechanism (or mechanisms) of destruction could cause the observed damages?
Chicago Fire.jpg

The topic is interesting in itself and when presented to readers and viewers in a particular certain manner, who had no prior knowledge to the event and whom are exposed to a subtle level of gaslight with hidden suggestion-ism in it, the result of the question posed will be congruent with what the narrator is exposing and implying on a deeper psychological level, for untrained minds.

What's implied here is that there were Directed Energy Weapons utilized to destroy the city of Chicago in 1871 disguised as an accidental fire that spread out of control. The explanation given is that fire cannot destroy brick buildings to that extent and cause that level of devastation, so an additional major cause, more destructive that fire itself, had to be involve in order to have a whole city reduced to rubble like in the image above. Something like overpowered weaponry.
Fair enough. But.

There was a thread in the other SH.net forum some time ago which got under the radar and was quoting a book from the 19th Century on how the cause of the fires in Chicago in 1871 could have been a shady group of arsonist whom plotted against the whole city by setting it on fire. That group to me looks like they could be very well members of a secret society like the Freemasons.

I'll just re quote that post because it's important.

The headquarters of the organization is in Paris, and its ramifications extend all over the world. There are branches in London, Edinburgh, Manchester, Liverpool, Dublin, Berlin, St. Petersburg, Naples, Florence, Vienna, and other cities it Great Britain and on the continent, and in New York, Boston, Washington, New Orleans, Baltimore, and Chicago, in this country. Its members are bound by a fearful oath never to divulge any of the plans of operations of the society, and were it known that I was about to relate the story I have commenced I should never live to finish it, while if the author of this ever becomes known I will die a death more horrible than that which met any of the victims of the inquisition. It is, therefore, with fear and trembling that I sit down to write the true story of the origin of the Chicago fire, and nothing but the sternest sense of duty, and a desire to clear my conscience, of a load that is too heavy for endurance, would induce me to pen these lines.

I fancy the sneer of incredulity with which some will greet my announcement that the destruction of Chicago was accomplished by this organization, but, when I have unfolded the details of the plot and the motives that prompted its conception, incredulity will give place to astonishment that human beings could be found who were so blinded by fanaticism as to become parties to so great and overwhelming a crime. The events of the past two weeks have awakened me from a dream so wild and improbable that were it not for the dreary evidences of its reality that I see about me, I could scarce believe, and still more reluctantly can I believe, that in the terrible tragedy that has been enacted I was one of the principal actors; that, though blinded by a fanaticism more fearful than the worst form of lunacy, I permitted myself to become the cause of so much misery and woe.

To begin at the beginning, I must revert to its extent-its objects and its plans.

The society was organized during the troubulous times that preceded the election of Louis Napoleon to the Presidency of France. A commune, in which all should have equal rights and privileges; in which the poor should be equal with the rich and the rich equal with the poor, was much talked of at that time, and this organization was formed with that object in view. The election of Napoleon to the Presidency, and his subsequent coup d’ etat by which he seated himself upon the throne, for a time defeated the plans of the socialists. Notwithstanding the fact, however, the organization was not abandoned, but was rather more closely cemented and more widely diffused. The evils of the reign of the third Napoleon seemed to add fuel to the fire that was smouldering in France, and the society drew into its ranks all the elements of discontent throughout the empire. The result of the late war between France and Germany was to incorporate a more dangerous element into the society, and it was determined to seize upon the opportunity offered by the withdrawal of the Prussians from Paris for putting the principles of society into execution.

Emissaries were dispatched to all the commercial capitals of the world, and, together with those who had fled from the Versailles government, formed branches in all the leading cities, not only in Europe, but in America. There was not lacking those who were so deeply imbued with an insane desire for the triumph of communistic principles that they were willing to undertake any desperate plan that gave promise of success, even though attended with infinite misery and suffering.

The long existing conflict between capital and labor had prepared thousands of persons in every large city, and especially in manufacturing districts, for any desperate work that would avenge the real or fancied wrongs they had received at the hands of the monied aristocracy. In this field the emissaries labored with a zeal that would have done credit to a better cause. The utmost care was exercised to prevent any disclosure of the plans of the organization.

While in Paris I became a member of this organization, and it is not surprising, therefore, that on its first organization in Chicago, some eight months ago, I was selected as one of the prime movers. Since I had returned from France, I had been in correspondence with some of those prominent in the movement there, among whom were M. Henri Martin, who was among the first to fall victim to the Versailles troops at the capture of the city; M. Assi, whose tragic fate is so fresh in the minds of all, and M. Julius Garadine, from whom I learned the progress the society was making and many of its future plans.

The organization in Chicago was formed under the direction of two members who had fled from Paris, and myself. As elsewhere, none but the most daring and trustworthy were admitted. The avowed purposes of the society were harmless in themselves. They were to endeavor to elevate the workingmen to the level of the rich; that everyone should enjoy equal benefits, and poverty and want should be unknown. To these declarations there was a codicil binding the members, if it were found impossible to secure the results by peaceable means to resort to whatever measure should be deemed advisable by the directors of the organization.

The first 2 months of the existence of the society were consumed in fruitless attempts to stir up strife between the mechanics of the city and their employers. But the disastrous consequences of the 8-hour strikes in 1867 were yet fresh in remembrance, and for once the labor unions refused to do the bidding of their prompters. This was a discouraging blow, but the members of the society were determined; for colossal fortunes were being amassed in an incredibly short space of time, and an aristocracy of wealth was springing up that threatened to become so strong as to defy overthrow. Plan after plan was suggested, and abandoned as impracticable. Finally, the


was suggested. Appalled by the thought of working such desolation in the fairest city on the continent, I at first shrank from participation in the transaction. I protested that instead of promoting the objects of the society it would only retard them. But all the others were firm, and, weakly, I yielded. Gradually the insanity produced by being a promoter of calamity that would shake the world to its center, took possession of me. Sleeping or waking, my thoughts were filled with the plan.

To mature the details of the plot required the utmost caution. The project of raising a mob by means of some popular excitement and to burn and pillage the city was debated at length, but at last abandoned because of the haphazardness and the inevitable loss of life that it would involve, for to take life was not our object-it was only to humble the men who had waxed rich at the expense of the poor. The incendiary’s torch was finally fixed upon, and on the ninth day of August preparations were actively begun to carry it into execution.

Several times a day was fixed for the awful tragedy, but as often abandoned. The co-operation of the elements was needed. The torch was first applied to the warehouse on the corner of State and Sixteenth streets on the gusty morning of 30th of September. It was hoped that the high south wind then prevailing would carry the flames to the row of frame buildings to the Northward, but a sudden change in the wind defeated the project by enabling the fire department to quench the flames. Again on the Saturday night preceding the catastrophe a match was applied on Canal Street, and for a few hours all seemed to be working well, and but for the failure of one of the petroleum mines to ignite, Sabbath morning would have seen Chicago in ashes.

But the doom that was overhanging the city was delayed but a day, and that day came near proving fatal to our plans, for then and only then were we in danger of betrayal.

All day long we had been in secret conclave where no mortal could spy out our doings. Petroleum mines had been laid in a score of places, and trusty men were stationed at each of them to apply the match at the proper moment. The plot had been arranged that all should appear as accident, our part being mainly to assist the progress of the flames, for we knew that, once beyond a certain limit, no agency could stay them. The place above all others in the city which promised the great measure of success was in the barn on DeKoven Street. No “old Irish hag” was milking her cow at the time, as the reporters of the city press are determined to have it. A human being of a different sex was there, however, but had disappeared, as if by magic, before any mortal eye had remarked his presence.

Before the arrival of the jaded firemen at the scene of the conflagration, half a dozen mines had been touched off, and their efforts to subdue the flames were as futile as the effort of a child to stem the raging cataract of Niagara. When the flames had reached the river, work began on the South side. Simultaneously a mine was sprung at the gas-works, and another near Van Buren Street bridge, and two whole blocks were a seething hell of flame in less time than it takes my unaccustomed pen to tell it. From thence onward the fire was assisted by a mine set on Wells street, near Monroe, another a block and a half further east, and still another in Farwell Hall. Few on that eventful Sunday night suspected that they were sitting over a magazine that needed but the touch of a match to involve them in a perfect hell of flame.

From that point the destruction of the South side, with its massive granite piles and well-stored warehouses, was assured. Onward sped the flames, and wherever they appeared likely to skip, a new magazine was fire, and ruin with his fearful front involved the fair city.

I had been delegated to explode the powder magazine on South Water street.

Our only fear of want of success was that the authorities, failing to stay the mad current of fire by ordinary means, would resort to the last and only hope-lay a few blocks in ruins by means of gunpowder. To guard against this a train had been laid communicating with the magazine, and required but a spark to destroy it. When the work had been fully inaugurated, I hastened to the point to which I had been assigned, wild with a frenzy more terrible than any I had ever before experienced. I reached the spot where the match should have been applied. A huge coal lay within a few feet of it. A slight kick from my foot would have placed it over the hidden fuse, but the streets were thronged with people, and I shrank from committing the act that would have plunged hundreds of human beings into eternity.

That moment’s hesitation was their salvation. The powder brigade arrived almost upon the instant, and the explosive was removed from the building. Among the first barrels removed were those with which the train communicated, and although a stray spark afterward fired the fuse, no explosion followed.

Hardly had I recovered from the momentary flash of humane feeling that overcame me, than I was placed in imminent peril of my life. The flames had advanced Northward on both sides of where I stood, and were rushing toward me with fearful rapidity. Dazed by the various conflicting emotions that had filled my breast, I had not noticed this, and when I awoke from my trance the most horrible of deaths stared me in the face. Hemmed in on every side in a crucible of fire, I for a moment gave way to despair. But despair gave me strength, and, breaking down a heavy door, I rushed through a store to the river and plunged into its waters. A boat moored at the dock assisted me to cross, although I did not waste time in getting into it, but pushed it before me as I swam. Reaching the North-side, I ran with all my speed through the streets toward the city limits, seeking to escape.

In the meantime, my co-workers in crime had not been idle. As the current of fire passed northward from Van Buren street, it appeared that a large tract bounded on the north by Madison street, and on the west by Dearborn street, including a valuable section of the city, would escape the terrible destruction that had visited the remainder of the city. The flames had proceeded along Harrison and Van Buren streets to Fourth avenue, and here seem to have spent their force. It was a terrible moment. A few brave men battled with the demon and but for the omnipresence of the league would have stayed its progress. But a man rushed into a house that had been abandoned by its occupants, ostensibly for the purpose of saving some household utensils that had been left, and returned laden with goods; but a moment afterward the rear of the building became a mass of flame, and a gust of wind carried it eastward to the lake and northward over the district that had thus been spared, thus completing the universal ruin.


it had been intended to destroy but a few buildings, and these the business headquarters and residences of the affluent. As during the progress of the fire on the South Side, mines were sprung in various localities as the flames advanced, but only where the natural course of the flames was likely to leave the work but imperfectly done.

The fire progressed too slowly. The water-works were in full blast, and there was danger that through their agency some of the buildings doomed to demolition would be saved. The works had been prepared for destruction, but the time had not arrived, as the fire was several blocks away. But, notwithstanding this fact, the match was applied, and the workmen were obliged to fly for their lives. In their flight the man who had fired the mine was overthrown and badly injured, and as the fire advanced, he fell victim to its fury.

This ended the work of the incendiaries. The elements completed the destruction, and the loveliest portion of Chicago was a wasted and dreary ruin. The results are more than had been anticipated, and not yet satisfactory. Many buildings that had been doomed escaped the fiery ordeal, while a large tract that it had been determined to spare is now a ruin. Retribution is not long in following the perpetrators of great crimes. Two of the original founders of the organization in Chicago met death in the terrible conflagration they had instigated, and I alone am spared to suffer worse than a thousand deaths from the stings of conscience. Seven of the men delegated to assist the fire in its progress also perished miserably in the hell they had conjured up, while two others are probably maimed for life.

As for myself, I have little hope of escaping vengeance. The oath to which I subscribed carries with it the penalty of death in a form more horrible than any that has been visited upon mortal since the sun first rose over chaos. The organization is omnipresent, permeating every circle of society, each member being bound to mete out the penalty of the oath to any one who may divulge its secrets. This, its greatest of secrets, has been written under the load of a guilty conscience. Life has lost all its attractions for me, and I scarcely care to live, save to see the damage caused partly through my instrumentality repaired. But if it shall appear that I cannot escape from those who have already involved me in so much misery, I will yet not die at their hands, but will prefer to lie in accursed ground.

-P.S.—Let me add one word of warning. Other cities, both in this country and in Europe, have been threatened with fire.

That many of our prominent citizens believe in the genuineness of these revolutions, is demonstrated in their daily conversation; and it is by no means impossible that they are founded in truth.
And to me this explains it all. It was a massive arson in order to have a forced rebuild of the city by making citizens and the municipality taking loans from the local banks for the reconstruction phase. Which I'm sure at the time were the Rothchilds. "Build Back Better" in the 19th Century in USA. Same thing as today. It's good to read alternative Sci-Fi explanations for tragic events, but more often than not the truth is that we're dealing with simple human greed for power and control.

That post got washed away in the face of more prominent sensationalistic "other worldly" threads like reset, controllers or parasites from the 5th dimension and what not. What a shame.
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And to me this explains it all. It was a massive arson in order to have a forced rebuild of the city by making citizens and the municipality taking loans from the local banks for the reconstruction phase. Which I'm sure at the time were the Rothchilds. "Build Back Better" in the 19th Century in USA. Same thing as today. It's good to read alternative Sci-Fi explanations for tragic events, but more often than not the truth is that we're dealing with simple human greed for power and control.

That post got washed away in the face of more prominent sensationalistic "other worldly" threads like reset, controllers or parasites from the 5th dimension and what not. What a shame.
I'm with you in this regard.
The question pertaining to the mechanism of destruction still remains. I doubt that traditional urban fires destroyed these cities. At the same time, I doubt that people would go along with having these cities blown up. And even if they did, wouldn't we have some sort of records reflecting the destruction?

But... don't we have something similar happening these days with all of them California and Hawaii wild fires? This brings us back to the same question. What was the tech?

On a separate note... I'm wondering whether events similar to the alleged destruction of Atlanta by General Sherman reflect the same chain of events.
The question pertaining to the mechanism of destruction still remains. I doubt that traditional urban fires destroyed these cities. At the same time, I doubt that people would go along with having these cities blown up. And even if they did, wouldn't we have some sort of records reflecting the destruction?
To me the cause of the destruction is multiple fires set up simultaneously in different parts of the city as described in the book above. People at the time had no say whatsoever in the event itself, all they could do was to run for their lives and then rebuild their homes or relocate to another city, it's not like they knew what was going on. There are records about the destruction I just found a couple or articles myself, but for more accurate data one should visit city hall's or firefighters archives for the time period, I'm sure there is data to be found. It just that it takes time to go and research in person.

I found from a firefighter's website that regular red bricks can burn when exposed under extreme temperatures. It's very interesting.

Yes, bricks can catch on fire, but it is not very common. Bricks are made from ceramic material, which is generally resistant to high temperatures. However, if exposed to high enough temperatures for a long enough period of time, the bricks can become weak and may eventually catch fire. Additionally, if the bricks are in contact with an ignition source, such as an open flame, they can ignite and cause a fire.​

The fire resistance of bricks varies, but brick walls typically have a higher temperature than other materials before catching fire. The melting point for most types of brick is around 1093 degrees Celsius, so when exposed to this heat, it will melt before combusting into flames.
Fire bricks, sometimes referred to as refractory bricks, are specifically designed with a high ignition temperature and can tolerate up to 1,800°F or higher sustained temperatures. On the other hand, regular bricks typically have an ignition point at around 212°F and start to soften at 900-1000°F. The heat they can handle before becoming compromised will depend mainly on their composition. Still, generally speaking, regular bricks won’t be able to take too much heat before crumbling into pieces.
Seeing a brick fire is like witnessing a raging beast. Bricks are an architectural staple, used for centuries to build sturdy structures that stand the test of time – but what happens when these bricks meet their match in the form of flames? Depending on the type of brick and how it’s built, we can witness both destruction and resilience. Fire bricks are specifically designed to withstand high temperatures, meaning they typically don’t ignite or become damaged by fire – however, regular bricks aren’t quite as resilient.

Now I'm no expert on fires but that article pretty much confirms the idea that regular red brick buildings aren't safe to fire. And let's remember that most of the buildings in Chicago at the time were 4-5 storey buildings with walls made of bricks and roofing including floors made of wood beams and planks, so it was easy for the temperatures to rise inside it and make the bricks brittle and collapse with the walls due to the wooden materials burning first. The article goes on and it's interesting to have an insights on how devastating fires can be.

There is also another article which contemplates on the idea on how the urban development of Chicago would have differed from today if the devastating fire didn't happen at all. It's a thought experiment on alternative timeline, but it shows how quick the reconstruction phase started and it touches a bit on the world fair also that was held later in 1893. It has a lot of data regarding the fire and mentions also the change in regulations regarding building's safety where wood structures and buildings were to be abolished in the future due to the catastrophic events of 1871, where the majority of the city had homes and buildings made of wooden materials. This was a lesson learned the hard way for the city.
It's interesting, so I recommend to anyone giving it a read.

But... don't we have something similar happening these days with all of them California and Hawaii wild fires? This brings us back to the same question. What was the tech?
I do agree though that today "they" have the capabilities to use DEWs and set whole cities on fire with a surgical precision, but not in the past. For entertaining that idea one should have solid evidence to prove that indeed DEWs were used, and I'm sorry, but comparing photos of destroyed Hiroshima, Nagasaki, California (2018), Mawi with Chicago and other city fires during the late 19th Century as evidence for this, it's not enough. One could say also that Chicago was fire bombed with conventional artillery shells and the level of destruction will still confirm that as a potential cause as also regular fire.

So it becomes an exercise on what someone prefers to see as the cause of the great fires, and of course the most unbelievable ones are on the top of the list, due to our conspiratorial minds. This is what I think, I don't have anything else to make my point further than this.
In the shipyard where I worked the entire site was heated by steam heating. It was run from a central boiler house which had four oil fired boilers to provide the steam. Two were in use in autumn and winter with one on standby and one stood down for relining.
During the summer the stood down one was made operational again having been completely re-lined and the worst of the other three was taken out of service for a complete strip down and re-lining.

The lining being replaced was refractory bricks specifically made to withstand the height atomised burning bunker oil generates. Even so repairs were needed during the burning season.

Point is even bricks made to withstand extreme heat for long periods fail. Engineering brick is higher fired than commons and can withstand a longer period of heat than the commons but they shatter and fracture.
Common bricks are low fired bricks that cannot withstand much heat in comparison before they fail usually by cracking and crumbling.
In my youth we used to build bonfires on top of some old bricks laid on the ground to provide air to the bottom of the bonfire and it was always the commons which failed first in the manner I described.

I am going through the photographs taken by Jex Bardwell and most seem to have been taken quite a while after the fire when the clean up and demolition of the still standing had begun. I say most as I am still going through them.
But for now the answer to the destruction is a burning time of a length and intensity that made the brick commons fail by losing their integrity with wood being the primary fuel and the wind or draught being the driver.

If as seems likely arson on a wideish scale was involved then there would have been accelerants and strategic piles of lumber, kindling, oily waste, barrels of oil which are likely to explode and spread a liquid fire would have been strategically placed to ensure nothing was extinguished before it took hold.

From the geography of the place the river was used as a barrier to the spread.
At this point I simply wanted to ask one question:
  • In your opinion, what mechanism (or mechanisms) of destruction could cause the observed damages?
If that image is an authentic photograph of the actual full-size city which they say it is, then: an energy beam. And if it was an energy beam, then it was either controlled by a conscious being or it was natural like lightning.

If we are wrong in our up-to-now assumption of that image being a photo of reality, then the answer is: hands. Meaning, all images of destruction could have been caused by hands which made a mere mini-model and/or CGI.

Related Question:
"What caused steel beams to fly so far away from the towers, as if light-as-aluminum, and then dissolve while falling?"

Related Answer:
"We were fooled by a pre-prepared movie with flaws: the 'lightness' is due to mini-model, the 'dissolving' is due to CGI."

But, but, these images are from the official archives: how could they forge fake images back then which appear real?

Well, perhaps they have had such fakery-technology even then, or, perhaps the archive-insertion happened recently.

(Or, it is indeed possible they have had this supposed Directed Energy Weapon beam technology, both then and now.)
(Still, be careful about this whole 'they have an extremely big stick' idea as all their atomic-bomb images were faked.)

When critically investigating 'Hawaii destruction footage' there's evidence (aluminum license plates gone, etc) of CGI.

I was fooled by the Dustified-by-DEW idea but all such "destruction evidence" became meaningless since proven fake.
(And yes, all the official 'live' broadcasts, and matching 'amateur additions', are all proven fake by the 4-meter 'victim').
So I no longer believe "they control DEW beams", instead I think they show us 'DEW Evidence' images: yet set plain fires. So, when looking at the "official & amateur" images (of city events, new and old, fire & war events) I now think all faked. They simply do land-grabs by: writing an official story (yet using plain fire and bombs) while adding in fake DEW-images. Yes, maybe they have successfully fooled me into being an evangelist for this idea of "DEW 'evidence' is all faked images." Or maybe they are simply successfully fooling you into holding on to the idea of "They have Nukes & DEW: very big sticks!"

Anyway, I think my most recent post (on the Model thread) proves (to me) NATURAL energy/plasma/lightning beams exist.
In summary, KD: I currently think Natural Zapping happened randomly everywhere, and huge land-grabs happened, simple. Partially-Zapped Derawar proves bricks turn to mud/dirt, thus explaining: Fully-Zapped Grand Canyon plus Sahara Desert. Meaning as Jon Levi theorized in that video with Derawar bricks as evidence: Grand Canyon was bricks, Sahara was bricks. I simply have taken his conclusion one step further: I think the Partial Zapping at Derawar PROVES it is Random & Natural.

Unrelated to such Natural Zapping, is the fact the rulers often write fake stories, and insert fake images, to do land grabs. They showed fake plane/victim images for the masses to get support for a war/land-grab (and added in 'DEW' for us few). They started fires in California/Hawaii for evacuation & land-grab (and again, added 'DEW' images for us to assume real). If their Nuke & DEW images were real, then: be afraid, be very afraid of them, and give the government mafia their tribute. If their Nuke & DEW images are fake, then: no need to fear and pay them so much. Just hope Nature doesn't zap your city. And no, I do NOT think we need to pay the government mafia to "save us from Nature". I'm NOT pushing the Climate Hoax. I'm simply pointing out: stop assuming images are real. Assuming images are real leads to false assumptions based on CGI.
If you go to a place, and see evidence of man-controlled-energy-beam-destruction, then bring us there. Images are fake.

EDIT: Also, to go back to your original question KD, if the images are authentic, here's a simple probable explanation:
Step #1: Start fires (gasoline + matches). Step #2: Evacuate everyone away. Step #3: Dynamite. Lots of it.
EDIT 2: If one says: "But the images don't look like dynamite damage." Then I'll say, "Step #4: all images were faked." :)

EDIT 3: "But how do we explain the destruction in Hawaii? The engines are missing!" The problem is starting loaded questions with the assumption included that the Hawaii images (and collection of images which are called movies or videos) are authentic in the first place. Just as the 'Mini-Nuke Evidence' images and 'DEW evidence' images in the 9/11 movie don't prove the existence of DEW, so too, here in the case of Hawaii. MM explains:

"The DEW-heads will say the lack of an engine is proof of DEWs, but they never explain how this tech targets engine metal and leaves other metal alone. It melts the engine right out of the chassis, but leaves the chassis? Plus, they forgot to CGI in some silver melted lines of metal pouring out of most of these cars, showing us how the metal was melted out, running in rivers. I guess DEWs now aerosol engine metals, or turn them to flour. But you don't need DEWs to explain why these cars don't have engines: they don't have engines because the engines were sold by the junkyards before these wrecks were fed into the computer or hauled to some set. Lazy compositing."

EDIT 4: KD, please forgive me (and BusyBaci, the first person to answer) for pointing out the question was slightly loaded. Here is SimonShack posing almost the exact same question as you asked here, perhaps he is poking fun at this very thread:



Alright, folks - so just for fun let me ask everyone how they think that the Empire State Building was 'brought down' in 1996:

1: Was it military-grade thermite?

2: Was it "Mini nukes"?

3: Was it "DEW" weapons?

4: Was it special movie effects?

The ESB collapsing top-down (and horrified people running away on the streets below)

Next, how do you think that the WTC towers were brought down on September 11, 2001?

The WTC collapsing top-down (and horrified people running away on the streets below)


1: Was it military-grade thermite?

2: Was it "Mini nukes"?

3: Was it "DEW" weapons?

4: Was it special movie effects?

CGI collapse footage - Page 35 - Cluesforum—Exposing Mass Deception

So a different question is: What fakery techniques were used in fire images then, or, how easy is it to archive-insert later?
By the way, I get it, you aren't asking the above question now, you posted it 3 years ago, BusyBaci just bumped it now.

Edit 5: My long answer is correcting your assumption fire images (Chicage, and now Maui) are "real" and thus prove "DEW".
I'll finish my attempt to stop such naive assumptions, by sharing more words from Simon Shack bringing us back to Reality:

"No covert military operation would rely on any sort of novel, untested 'sci-fi' weapons to bring down skyscrapers in Manhattan. NOTHING is left to chance in the military sphere; only the most tested and dependable explosives would thus have been chosen – such as those used reliably and unfailingly every day around the world to bring down old buildings with."
"...'DEW' and 'NUKE' weapons are no more than scare-mongering make-believe propaganda contrivances used for mass control. The recently-revived “DEW” fearporn (see Maui events) was started years ago by a woman named Judy Wood, a popular 9/11 gatekeeper whose specific role is / was to try and ‘justify’ the bogus 9/11 imagery, what with the apparent mid-air ‘dustification’ of the Twin Towers. Her ‘key psyop assignment’ is to try and convince people that magic DEW weapons from space actually exist - and therefore, that the absurd / unphysical WTC collapse videos may actually be legit / authentic."
And finally, KD, the Chicago images we look at now (like at the top of this thread) might be different than the originals. Meaning, an absolutely undeniable fact is the original broadcast on 9/11 differs vastly from the later "amateur" inserts:

You can see the original Low-Quality hazy-day image-fakery they showed in the Original Broadcast on NBC at 9:59 AM:


But NBC/ABC/CBS/FOX/CNN cameras must have all been cheap, because: in 2010 "amateur" versions were inserted:


So, the 2001/9/11 Live Broadcast version is much lower quality than "NIST-FOIA CUMULUS archive" released in 2010.
In a similar way, KD, can you consider the idea: perhaps "old fire images" we see today are different from the originals?

Edit 6: I'm now thinking perhaps it went like this: Natural Zaps from the sky came at some point in time, which turned bricks to dirt/sand (which later combined with a flood which led to mud.) Then, either immediately after, or a long time after, who knows which, the richest of the survivors started grabbing control of the ruins, ruins which included a mixture of perfectly fine buildings, totally turned-to-dust buildings, and partially-destroyed partially-fine combination buildings. Then, while grabbing control of these ruins, the rich created the "fire story" for each of these cities, and attached to the official "fire" stories various official images (some could be real, some could be fake, some a combination, and some - or all - of the images we see today in the archives might even be more-recently-updated-forgeries inserted into the archives at later dates, with better forgeries of course becoming possible over the decades and centuries after the initial image dissemination).

Within the story writing, and the image fakeries, one goal of the rich was to claim "they" built the buildings they found, which were actually built long before their birth, so the rich claimed they "newly founded" such buildings (thus cleverly implying they built them, while keeping in their back-pocket the ability to back-pedal if needed, since if they were ever brought before a judge their lawyers could easily use the defense of "My client clearly wrote 'founded', which means the buildings were found, so my client cannot be convicted of fraud, it's not my client's fault people then assumed newly founded meant newly built by my client. The people voluntarily agreed to my client owning all the buildings and all the land everywhere, and my client and his family have been the legal caretakers and thus owners ever since.").

Anyway, instead of getting bogged down in the details, the main point I'm making now is: from JonLevi, last week, as mentioned, I learned Natural Zaps can destroy bricks, melting them into what then turns to sand or mud (depending on the subsequent dryness or wetness of the area). And now today, from my starting to look through ReverendALC's posts with proper respect and open-mindedness, this idea which he proposed now seems very logical to me, which he posted in the "How did they alter our history?" thread, to answer that particular question:
To circle back to the original question a little bit… I just had an interesting thought:

We are all attempting to reconcile history, with a noble purpose in the pursuit of knowledge. We have numerous tools at our disposal.

As previously suggested, what if there was an ELE which nearly extinguished civilization and recorded history with it? What if, in the noble pursuit of knowledge, our ancient scholars attempted to piece together history as well as they could, with their far more limited means?

I guess the bush that I’m beating around is maybe this isn’t as nefarious as it seems; it’s just a poorly done job due to limited means and an inordinate amount of speculation?

That being said, there are some definitely nefarious factors at play. Maybe the ignorance of academia was co-opted by those who knew better and capitalized on the opportunity?
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A couple of observations from perusing Jex Bardwell photographs and those of other photographers on the sites linked below.

All of the photographs are taken days or weeks after the fire not immediately after the fire as evidenced by the clear roads Some feature what looks demolition work.
Some feature obvious smoke and flame damage to window and door openings.
Most shells of buildings are devoid of wooden features including floors and roofs which suggest a fire hot enough and driven enough to entirely consume the wood. Akin to the modern gasifying woodstoves method of combustion which leaves next to no ash and produces next to no smoke.
All the trees are scorched or burnt.
The telephone telegraph lines have been repaired and restored in some photos.
The O'Leary story is propaganda as evidenced by there being a stereograph of a cottage said to be O' Leary's and a Mrs O'Leary leading a cow down a street. Way too convenient.

Bricks and stone work both show damage, failure and fracture due to heat.

The actual burnt area is hard to ascertain from any of the photographs and the maps of the spread are not much help as they all seem to be different.

As to Jex Bardwell there is a consistency to the photographs attributed to him that show they were all composed and shot by the same man. They contrast with the framing styles and compositions of the other photographers so he is more likely than not to have been a flesh and blood photographer.
Didn't get to finish my post yesterday, forgot about the save draft button as well.

From the photographs at those links its clear there was a fire or fires in the buildings. The damage to the stone work, the brickwork, the trees along with burn markings on some windows and doorways are all evidence of this being the case.
Best evidence of all is the lack of wood. Other than the trees and the odd window frame and the firebreak house all the wood in the damaged buildings has gone. As far as I know fire burning with a strong draught is the only thing that can do this.

The photographs are all of the aftermath of the fire when clean up and demolition is going on. Having a second look at the maps it looks like, I stress "looks like" the fire spread roughly north to south as the burnt area expands in that direction, roughly, in all the maps.
This suggests a couple of things.
First any accelerant used by arsonists is concentrated n the north of the area to be burnt which is likely also an area where full timber structures predominated thus giving a fire a very rapid start and and an instant hold both of which produce a fast hot burn....assuming the wind was up and blowing north to south. These three together would produce a gassifying fire which consumes all fuel as I described above leaving no wood in the rubble.
It produces an intensity of heat which affects low fired common bricks. The brick buildings damaged look to have been built of low fired brick which is why they suffered so badly. All of the standing brick remains are devoid of wood.

Of the stone building remains there is again the total lack of wood in the remains and rubble. This shows the fires intensity aka the most fierce heat was inside the buildings. In essence the brick and stone of the structures, there are no purely stone built structures in the photos therefore they all fall into the brick manufacturing 'age' so too speak, create individual fireboxes or burn chambers.
It is this that provides the conditions in which all wood in the building ignites and burns hot enough to be totally consumed and degrade the buildings brick to the point of failure.

The fires only escape is through windows and doors which once glass and wood have gone provide extra air to further intensify the fire. Depending on where the fire takes hold, floors or roofs go first as they are the things instantly heated by any accelerant used and hot wood ignites quicker than ambient wood.

As wood is the predominant decorative and supporting feature of both fixtures and fittings in most buildings today it is far to say it was more so in 1871. This provides a ready supply of fuel for a hot fire and an accelerant of some kind and draught are all that's needed to take a point of ignition rapidly to building failure in pretty short order.

To sum it up.
As far as I can observe from my experience of fires and how they are fought in my shipyard days, my experience of the damping down of a fire in a paint shop in the town centre and how the structure was saved from collapse, and viewing the aftermath of two recent major local fires one in a standalone building, one in a row of terraced houses, and my understanding of gasifying fire technology, I have a commercial one and I have built one, I feel that on the balance of probabilities these photographs show the aftermath of fire ergo fire is the medium which caused the damage/devastation.
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