Mud Flood in Sardis: archaeologists are silent...

Hey, mainstream Pseudo-Archaeologists!
While you are hunting for arrowheads, chinese pants, egyptian socks, leather shoes, and other non-sense... why don't you tell us where all this dirt came from. In this case we have the city of Sardis in today's Turkey. Where do you place this Sardis City on your historical time line? The answer is:
  • Founded... somewhere around 1220 BC
  • The city was abandoned in 1402 AD
Pseudo-Historical Punch Line:
  • However once the Byzantines retook Constantinople in 1261, Sardis with the entire Asia Minor was neglected and the region eventually fell under the control of Ghazi emirs. The Cayster valleys and a fort on the citadel of Sardis was handed over to them by treaty in 1306. The city continued its decline until its capture (and probable destruction) by the Turco-Mongol warlord Timur in 1402.
Pseudo-Archaeologist!
Where did ~20 feet of dirt come from?
  • Fell from the sky?
  • Arrived by land?
  • Materialized from ether?
  • A version of your own...
And in general... why do you always have to dig stuff out? Who buried our artifacts?

TPTB has it covered:
  • Disaster came to the great city under the reign of the emperor Tiberius, when in 17 AD, Sardis was destroyed by an earthquake, but it was rebuilt with the help of ten million sesterces from the Emperor and exempted from paying taxes for five years. It was one of the great cities of western Asia Minor until the later Byzantine period.
  • AD 17 Lydia earthquake - Wikipedia
  • KD: What else could they use to explain the dirt, I do not know...
Credits
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Mudflood in Sardis
I found this image interesting enough to look for additional ones from the same series. Based on the dude with a shovel, it had to be some early dig. Some reverse image searching brought me to this wonderful site about the archaeological exploration of Sardis:
  • The above image took me to this page, which gave me a further lead.
    • Excavation of one of the elevated porch columns (#11) by H.C. Butler, 1911.
    • Howard Crosby Butler Archive, Department of Art and Archaeology, Princeton University
Eventually I ended up on this Princeton University Archaeological Archives website. And here are some additional photographs from the above series. You can use my search string, or create the one of your own. Additionally, you can use this link :
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One has to enjoy the disrespect this society has to unknowingly endure:
  • According to modern estimates based on historical accounts, each of these columns consisted of a single piece of marble over 60 feet long and weighing close to 100 tonnes. Exactly how these columns were erected isn’t clear, which only made the temple more visually impressive to ancient travellers and worshippers, many of whom were simply awed by its sheer size.
  • Wouldn’t we want to know the real reason why Herostratus destroyed the temple-factory?


KD: Nice little square at the bottom of the above column, isn't it. Some of those photographs from Princeton Archaeological Archives are rather interesting. We don't see too many of these advertised by the mainstream.
  • So, if this happened to this Sardis City around 1402 AD... where is the info? What happened, and where did all this dirt come from? Earthquake in 17AD did it? Right.
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Before 1910
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Oh, and by the way... what exactly were them "archaeologists" with guns looking for at the Temple of Cybele? I do not believe for a second they cared about cultural heritage back then. I think they were looking for technology.
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Some of the related things are fun as well. Like this little 1705 map with ruins of Troy, Philadelphia and Sardis marked and noted.

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Well, naturally, an invading army would be followed by many wagon loads of dirt to dump over the site.
According to modern estimates based on historical accounts, each of these columns consisted of a single piece of marble over 60 feet long and weighing close to 100 tonnes.
In the pictures they look like stacked segments. If they were one piece of marble, how did they cut them and stack them so precisely? I know marble is not that hard to cut, but they must have been pretty precise to avoid having a leaning or tipping column.
I like the mini railroad tracks that they appear to have been using to move out the dirt, too bad they don't show the cart. That guy with the pick ax in the fifth picture makes me wince. Be careful!
 
I have had a thought about this site and it concerns the effects of erosion.
From the image below, you can see the hill above the site is heavily eroded. Vegetation is concentrated in gullies and none of it is particularly tall in growth. This is suggestive of water erosion.
The hill was likely deforested by goat herds as goats will eat anything they can reach and they are surprisingly agile tree climbers. Its also likely the usable tree cover of the hill was logged out possibly during the construction of the temple and the goats simply kept the regrowth down.
Point is at some point erosion gullies began to form and washed away the soils. Topsoil going first and subsoil following and with the complex lying below the gullies the muddy run off could well have built up the kind of soil layer we see being dug out i the black and white photographs.

That it is subsoil is clear from the photos. Its also quite dry but not bone dry and appears fairly easy to remove as evidenced by the type of tools the diggers are holding.

Another possibility is the entire side of the hill went in a landslip of some description. It would most likely be a earthquake which if it were could also account for the ruin of the complex. As there is no apparent evidence of buried trees in the photographs it suggest the tree cover of the hill had vanished at the time of the earthquake, if indeed there was one.
Perhaps the earthquake was enough to cause the landslip and then the water based erosion gullies came later which would make sense as already loosened earth is much easier for water to shift in suspension and is a much more passive deposition process as the flow slows and the soil falls out.

It would have taken a fair while to build up the soil to the depths shown in the various photographs so its probable the site was abandoned without any efforts at recovery.
Anyway those are my ideas on the burial of this site.
Updated Princeton link to the photographs
Source of the aerial image
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The direction of the flow is much clearer in this photo from 1910

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Edit to add.
Looking at the two photograps and comparing the vegatation spread.
The foreground trees are visible in both photographs and they appear to be the same trees judging from their height.
The area above the foreground tree line is devoid of vegetation in the 1910 photo in comparison to the colour photo. I meam literally devoid as in no growth.
This could be down to goat herding activities as I said they will eat anything green but equally the landslip, if that is what we are looking at, cannot of happened tht much further back from 1910 as subsoil will not support new growth of pioneer species. Pioneer meaning first arrivals that can live die rot and start the process of building a living topsoil.
Its obvious that the trees in the 1910 image are growing on fertile soil and the subsoil must have buried that level of fertile soil surrounding the complex when it moved down hill.

There is over 100 years between the two and assuming the climate over that period was similar to the 100 + years preceeding the 1910 photo if goats were absent then the landslip may well have been in the recent past not distant past which of course throws all estimates of dating for this complex and guesses at who the builders were 'out of the window'.

I get the distinct feeling from this particular site that actual human history has a much shorter and therefore compressed timeline than the official fabricated acdemic narrative serves up.

Second edit to add.
A laugh out loud moment!
Last night I was investigating the Oglethorpe bloke said to be the founder of Savanah Georgia. This morning I was looking again into Sardis and discovered there is a Sardis in Georgia!
Who'd have thunk it?

Another couple of possibilities have arrived.
Could the slope above the complex have been terraced at the time of the landslip?
Or could there have been a dam at the too of the slope which acted as reservoir for the complex and possibly the terrsces?
These ideas came out of perusing this recent aerial photograph.
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