Was previous Jerusalem located in England?

Wanted to post this prior to flying out to Florida. The other day I stumbled into two lines of 1661 text about the "old Jerusalem". I'm pretty sure you will be able to figure out what two lines I'm talking about once you get to them. Meanwhile, let's start with the Skull Hill:

• Golgotha, (Aramaic: “Skull”) also called Calvary, (from Latin calva: “bald head,” or “skull”), skull-shaped hill in Jerusalem, the site of Jesus' crucifixion.
• The hill of execution was outside the city walls of Jerusalem, apparently near a road and not far from the sepulchre where Jesus was buried.
• Its traditional site, identified by Queen Mother Helena, mother of Constantine the Great, in 325 AD.
• Calvary - Wikipedia
• Golgotha

Below we have a map showing today's Jerusalem. The Golgotha Hill is indicated by a red marker.

• You are welcome to zoom in. See if you can find a river or a body of water immediately next to the city of Jerusalem.
  • The Dead Sea is ~15 miles away
  • The Mediterranean Sea is ~ 30 miles away

Yet, some of the depictions of the Christ's crucifixion do not really look like the known Jerusalem area. Where do we have a similar size body of water in Jerusalem?


Then, we have this.

• This province is called Tarshish, from which came the Three Wise Kings, and they came to Bethlehem in Judaea with their gifts and worshipped Jesus Christ, and they are entombed in the city of Cologne two days journey from Bruges.
• Biblical Magi - Wikipedia

According to the Gospel of Matthew, our Magi found the divine child in Bethlehem by following the North Star across the desert.

• Bethlehem is about 4 miles south of Jerusalem, and there are no bodies of water there either.

And this here is "ancient" Jerusalem, as far as I understand.


Below we have an early version of the PTB Chronology. It was published in London in 1661, or I66I, if you prefer.

• 70 AD - Jerusalem was destroyed by Titus​
  • Siege of Jerusalem (70 CE) - Wikipedia​
• 135 AD - A new town Elia was built, where the old Jerusalem was.​

The narrative has this "town of Elia" covered.

• Aelia Capitolina was a Roman colony founded by Emperor Hadrian in Jerusalem, which had been almost totally razed after the siege of 70 AD, during his trip to Judah in 129/130 AD. ​
• The foundation of Aelia Capitolina and the construction of a temple to Jupiter at the site of the former temple may have been one of the causes for the outbreak of the Bar Kokhba revolt in 132 AD. ​
• Aelia Capitolina remained as the official name until Late Antiquity and the Aelia part of the name transliterated to "Iliyā" was also used by the Umayyad Caliphate.​
• Aelia Capitolina - Wikipedia​

There are minor discrepancies, but I'm not sure whether 129/130 AD in 2021 vs 135 in 1661 is enough to dent the narrative. At the same time, tiny inconsistencies like this can make a difference.

• In Roman Judaea Hadrian visited Jerusalem, which was still in ruins after the First Roman–Jewish War of 66–73.
• He may have planned to rebuild Jerusalem as a Roman colony with various honorific and fiscal privileges.
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• KD: These "may have's" sound somewhat suspicious.

So, how much difference can the above 5-6 year gap produce? Judge for yourself.

• Inscriptions make it clear that in 133 Hadrian took to the field with his armies against the rebels.
• He then returned to Rome, probably in that year and almost certainly - judging from inscriptions - via Illyricum (Balkan peninsula).
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• Hadrian spent the final years of his life at Rome.
• In 134, he took an Imperial salutationfor the end of the Second Jewish War, which was not actually concluded until the following year.
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KD: If inscriptions make it clear that Hadrian left the area in 133 AD, than who founded this "Aelia Capitolina" in 135 AD?

According to Mr. Fomenko, Jesus Christ was born in 1152 and died in 1185. That makes it the 12th century if we use our current time line. Personally, I do not know if Jesus Christ has ever existed as a living being.

• Judging by the alleged purpose of his "second coming", we could have an "Oh Jesus" event hiding behind this name.
  • Do we really know how many times earthlings had a pleasure of Jesus visiting their habitat?
• One way or the other, I'm probably a bit more radical as far as dating "Jesus" goes.
• I know that certain things did not start until the 15th century.
  • The biggest of them all was the Age of Discovery.
  • Age of Exploration Timeline
• Methinks, "Jesus" visited us (or them) a bit prior to 1400s (on the PTB provided time line).

We know that there was a city named Jerusalem in Africa. I am somewhat skeptical about this African Jerusalem. Here are my reasons to be skeptical.

• Every single map (with Jerusalem on it) was produced after 1850.
• This Orange River does not appear to be big enough.
  • It's still better than no body of water at all.
• There is no Elia connection that I can see.

African Jerusalem Maps:

• 1854 Black, Adam, Charles
• 1858 Francesco C. Marmocchi
• 1886 South Africa Map ​
• 1880 Adolf Stieler​
• 1887 Moronsky Map​
• 1890 George Bacon​
• 1893 Richard Kiepert, Paul Sprigade

Needless to say that we have no Jerusalem there any longer. This African Jerusalem was renamed a few times.


Today's Vredebeergs (1 + 1) do not match geographically. Googling for Gaobis produced this:

• Ramansdrift is an abandoned town on the banks of the Orange River.
• The nearest towns are Vredendal (28.8 km), Gaobis (28.8 km), Silwerstroom (32.6 km), and Hakiesdoorn (48.3 km).
• The first Boers set out north from what is now Little Namaqualand to found settlements such as Kakamas, Ramansdrift, Schuitdrift, and Sendelindgsdrift.

If anything, it does sound like Boers headed straight for Jerusalem. Who knows, may be it's a new Jerusalem (aka Temple) every time after we get visited by "Jesus".


The Isle of Ely is a historic region around the city of Ely in Cambridgeshire, England. This Ely is not even close to any body of water. At the same time, when we talk about England, there appears to be one interesting detail to consider.

The poem was supposedly inspired by the apocryphal story that a young Jesus, accompanied by Joseph of Arimathea, a tin merchant, travelled to what is now England and visited Glastonbury during his unknown years.

• Jerusalem
• Jerusalem: a history of England's hymn
• A Short Analysis of William Blake’s ‘Jerusalem’

So... who knows? Them water levels can do miracles. Of course, this part works for any Jerusalem location. At the same time, we do have maps showing the town of Elia aka Ely being close to some serious water.

• The below 1541 map is posted to demonstrate that a good chunk of the island was under water at some point.
• Can you find the city of London on the below 1541 map?
• Please consider the name of the area where our town of Ely is located today: Isle of Ely.
  • Narrative: Until the 17th century, the area was an island surrounded by a large area of fenland, a type of swamp.
  • Cambridge scientist warns Ely will become an island (again)

KD: What do you think? Could it be that the real Jerusalem was not destroyed by the Romans, but rather became submerged due to a major flood? Genesis 8:3.

• The water receded steadily from the earth. At the end of the hundred and fifty days the water had gone down.

Once the water receded, the old Jerusalem was renamed to Elia aka Ely... (speculating here)... a new Jerusalem location was picked and the next Temple (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc) was allowed to begin...