Hypothesis: Mutiny in the Sky or a Short History of the World

Question #1: Did you know that between 2008 and 2011, British scientists have secretly created more than 150 human-animal hybrid embryos?
It was in 2011 and happened to become public knowledge. Imagine what we do not know with all the classified "military" research labs out there.
Question #2: What information do you think is being hidden within the vaults of the Secret Archives of the Vatican Library? And why would books be getting destroyed now and then?


Disclaimer #1: If you can decipher every single riddle from the Second Dream-Vision of Enoch (chapters LXXXV through XC without doubting yourself), you do not need to read anything below this line. Well, may be the 19th century part you do.
Disclaimer #2: I thought my craziest articles were written before. I have to rescind my previous claims, for I think this is the craziest one. Presented below is a hypothetical non-sense I am currently leaning to. With the totality of circumstances, historical inconsistencies, questionable and unverifiable scientific claims taken into consideration, this is how the dots connect for me.
Disclaimer #3: I was playing with this specific article for over a week now. After hours of typing I understood that my regular approach was not gonna work here. I am not a book writer, and putting together an 800 page novel is the last thing I want to do. Below will be a short version of my thoughts on the issue, with some supportive materials. There will be minimal amounts of descriptive information. Each one of the below bullets could have pages of supportive information.
Disclaimer #4: As this is a conceptual approach, my main goal will be to break down the sequence of events as I see it at the moment. I will use some conventional dates, but those will primarily be used to visualize my hypothetical time line. This article is not for the beginners, but rather for advanced users of Stolen History.
Disclaimer #5: I believe that the Bible (including various sources of other religions) is a watered down version of the World History. This version was completely stripped of the technological aspect, with only spiritual and ethical aspects remaining.

Disclaimer #6: Bear with me throughout this entire article. It will require some thought and patience.


Note #1: I do not like using Biblical texts, but we are going to start off with times requiring us to use the Scripture. No matter how convoluted, but those are some of the few pieces of information pertaining to the distant past we can lean on. I understand that the question of credibility will always be up in the air.
Note #2: The Book of Enoch (text) is an apocryphal text and is not a part of the traditional Biblical Canon. Yet, it is a part of the Ethiopian Canon. Enoch, the son of Jared and the father of Methuselah, was the seventh generation from Adam. Noah was Enoch's great grandson, making Enoch, Noah's great grandfather.
  • Dick Harfield, "The Book of Enoch was accepted by the second and third century Church Fathers such as Clement of Alexandria and Tertullian, although Tertullian mentioned that some rabbis would not accept it. Enoch was mentioned in the Epistle of Jude and it can be seen that some of the gospel material may have been based on it. Following the Council of Nicaea in 325 CE, the Book of Enoch became sidelined and was eventually banned by late-fourth- century and early-fifth-century theologians such as Jerome and Augustine."
    • Same Dick Harfield, "There have never been giants on earth. It is true that Neanderthal men, of which hundreds of skeletons have been found, were massively stronger than modern humans, but they were also shorter in stature. The last thing any scientist would do on finding evidence of giants on earth would be to cover it up, since the very fact of discovering evidence of giants would make him famous."
  • Dick Harfield + Dick Harfield: he is not a part of anything pertaining to this article. I used him for his biased summary of the contents of the Book of Enoch. He sure does know if there were any giants back in the day, right?
Prerequisite
As a prerequisite to some of the things following below, I would highly recommend the following video by Rob Skiba. In my opinion he has one of the best grasps of the Nephilim concept.



This lady here has an interesting video on the topic, as well. She might be lacking in concept, but does a pretty good job describing her visual aids.

The Book of Enoch did not play the main part in my concept, but did help to piece certain things together. I am not going to try to change opinions about this text. Understanding the importance of this book requires doing some homework. I am a firm believer that there is a reason why this text could never survive within our traditional Bible.


1. Space, Time, Earth
Our perception of Space and Time is a very important maintenance psyop meant to provide for a non-existent reality. The purpose is to instill a false understanding of the fundamentals of this World.
  • Space: we are provided with the concept of the Infinite Universe. The concept is supported by unverifiable images of the Galaxies "far and far away".
    • Space reality: we can not get a normal photograph of the Earth, or a live cam (pointed to Earth) on the Moon. I could add fifty more of these "can't do's". Those you should know for yourself.
  • Time: we are provided with the concept of some unfathomable and unverifiable time tables. Here I mean things like our Big Bang theory, and its 13.8 billion years old time frames. Here I am talking about the dinosaur concept, and its 65+ millions of years. We are given Darwinism, Ancient Egypt, Greece and Rome to extend our history into an indiscernible dot in the past.
    • Time reality: we do not know who built multiple buried tunnels, just like we do not know what event dumped 20 feet of dirt on our 19th century cities.
  • Earth: we are provided with the concept of the Earth structure. We are given our crust, mantle and two cores. None of these are verifiable.
    • Earth reality: We have only seen the crust. World famous 40,230 feet (12,262 meters) deep Kola Superdeep Borehol is the deepest we have ever gone into the Earth. It took almost 20 years to reach that 7.5-mile depth - only half the distance or less to the mantle.
2. Artificial Earth
The Earth was artificially created. The Earth is a limited access terrarium. Its inhabitants think that they are free. Its inhabitants believe that they are at the top of the food chain. The Earth was created using some advanced scientific approach. This type of science is above and beyond of what we are capable of accepting, or comprehending at the moment. This scientist is commonly referred to as The God (supreme being, creator deity, etc).
  • Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. - Arthur C. Clarke
3. Earth Model
The Earth is either an enclosure on a much bigger body, or a stand alone object. The surface we live on is flat. The shape of the entire object commonly referred to as a planet is unknown to us. Currently I'm leaning towards one of the below two models. Either way, there is a dome.
  • In reality the shape is irrelevant. It's just nice to know what it is.
  • Relevant is the reason the shape is being hidden from us.
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4. Sun, Moon and Stars
The Sun, Moon, other Planets and Stars are not what we are traditionally taught they are. These are parts of the Earth clockwork mechanism providing for the support of the environment within our enclosure. There is a description of how it could work provided (allegedly) by Enoch. It will require a sharp person to figure out how everything works in there.
  • ...and I saw six portals in which the sun rises, and six portals in which the sun sets and the moon rises and sets in these portals, and the leaders of the stars and those whom they lead: six in the east and six in the west, and all following each other in accurately corresponding order: also many windows to the right and left of these portals...
5. The Scientist(s) aka The God
The creators had a military type structured organization, as in - they had their own hierarchy. Once again, the Book of Enoch provided the clues. As we know from the traditional KJV Bible, Genesis 6.2, and 6.4:
  • 6.2 - That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
  • 6.4 - There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Well, that is basically all we get out of the Bible. The Book of Enoch, Chapter 6, has a more detailed explanation of the above:
  1. And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters.
  2. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.'
  3. And Semjâzâ, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.'
  4. And they all answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.'
  5. Then sware they all together and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it.
  6. And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it.
  7. And these are the names of their leaders: Sêmîazâz, their leader, Arâkîba, Râmêêl, Kôkabîêl, Tâmîêl, Râmîêl, Dânêl, Êzêqêêl, Barâqîjâl, Asâêl, Armârôs, Batârêl, Anânêl, Zaqîêl, Samsâpêêl, Satarêl, Tûrêl, Jômjâêl, Sariêl.
  8. These are their chiefs of tens.
Again in the Chapter 7:
  1. These are the names of their chiefs: Samyaza, who was their leader, Urakabarameel, Akibeel, Tamiel, Ramuel, Danel, Azkeel, Saraknyal, Asael, Armers, Batraal, Anane, Zavebe, Samsaveel, Ertael, Turel, Yomyael, Arazyal.
  2. These were the prefects of the two hundred angels, and the remainder were all with them.
Later at the time of the judgement the Book of Enoch, Chapter 68, provides the following information on their hierarchy:
  1. After this judgment they shall be astonished and irritated; for it shall be exhibited to the inhabitants of the earth.
  2. Behold the names of those angels. These are their names. The first of them is Samyaza; the second, Arstikapha: the third, Armen; the fourth, Kakabael; the fifth, Turel; the sixth, Rumyel; the seventh, Danyal; the eighth, Kael; the ninth, Barakel; the tenth, Azazel; the eleventh, Armers; the twelfth, Bataryal; the thirteenth, Basasael; the fourteenth, Ananel; the fifteenth, Turyal; the sixteenth, Simapiseel; the seventeenth, Yetarel; the eighteenth, Tumael; the nineteenth, Tarel; the twentieth, Rumel; the twenty-first, Azazyel.
  3. These are the chiefs of their angels, and the names of the leaders of their hundreds, and the leaders of their fifties, and the leaders of their tens.
No wonder the Book of Enoch is not a part of the Bible:
  • A 200 strong "Watcher Class" battalion of Angels
  • Broken down into 4 companies of 50 Angels
  • With all of the above broken down into 20 squads of 10 angels...
  • ... descend on Earth to have sex?
And all this "let's go have sex" action is preceded by this line from their Battalion Commander Samyaza:
  • I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.
And his loyal 200 "Watcher Class" Angels respond:
  • Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.
    • Then swear they all together and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it.
I think this is where a reasonable person should start asking questions:
  • Why are Angels broken down into military units?
  • Where they really heading down to have sex, or they had something else in mind?
I think they sure did have alternate plans, and sex was no part of those plans.

6. The Purpose of Earth
This is where I am going to inject a little bit of Z. Sitchin's Annunakis, for, in my opinion, the gist of the story explains the purpose of the Earth Enclosure.
  • According to Sitchin, the Anunnaki genetically engineered homo erectus to create modern humans to work as their slaves.
  • Annunaki would be equal to the same military scientific corp mentioned in bullet #5
And this is basically it. The Earth was created as a farm. Whether it was created to play a Strategy Game, to mine Gold, as an experiment, or to harvest genetic material is irrelevant for the purposes of this article.

7. Two Sins
Here we will look at the wrong deeds done by the "Watcher Class" battalion of Angels to be banished from Heaven, and at the sins committed by the early Mankind to warrant the Great Deluge aka the Biblical Flood.

Angels' wrongdoings:
  • Bible:
    • came down to Earth and did what they did. Fell (took them wives of all which they chose?).
  • Book of Enoch, instance #1:
    • Then they ("Watcher Class Angels") took wives, each choosing for himself; whom they began to approach, and with whom they cohabited; teaching them sorcery, incantations, and the dividing of roots and trees.
      • And the women conceiving brought forth giants
      • Whose stature was each three hundred cubits (150 yards)
  • Book of Enoch, instance #2:
    • Moreover Azazyel taught men to make swords, knives, shields, breastplates, the fabrication of mirrors, and the workmanship of bracelets and ornaments, the use of paint, the beautifying of the eyebrows, the use of stones of every valuable and select kind, and of all sorts of dyes, so that the world became altered.
    • Amazarak taught all the sorcerers, and dividers of roots
    • Armers taught the solution of sorcery
    • Barkayal taught the observers of the stars
    • Akibeel taught signs
    • Tamiel taught astronomy
    • And Asaradel taught the motion of the moon
      • KD: But... And men, being destroyed, cried out; and their voice reached to heaven.
  • Book of Enoch, instance #3:
    • The name of the first is Yekun: he it was who seduced all the sons of the holy angels; and causing them to descend on earth, led astray the offspring of men.
    • The name of the second is Kesabel, who pointed out evil counsel to the sons of the holy angels, and induced them to corrupt their bodies by generating mankind.
    • The name of the third is Gadrel: he discovered every stroke of death to the children of men.
      • He seduced Eve; and discovered to the children of men the instruments of death, the coat of mail, the shield, and the sword for slaughter; every instrument of death to the children of men.
      • From his hand were these things derived to them who dwell upon earth, from that period for ever.
    • The name of the fourth is Penemue: he discovered to the children of men bitterness and sweetness;
      • And pointed out to them every secret of their wisdom.
      • He taught men to understand writing, and the use of ink and paper.
        • Therefore numerous have been those who have gone astray from every period of the world, even to this day.
        • For men were not born for this, thus with pen and with ink to confirm their faith;
        • Since they were not created, except that, like the angels, they might remain righteous and pure.
        • Nor would death, which destroys everything, have affected them;
        • But by this their knowledge they perish, and by this also its power consumes them.
    • The name of the fifth is Kasyade: he discovered to the children of men every wicked stroke of spirits and of demons:
      • The stroke of the embryo in the womb, to diminish it; the stroke of the spirit by the bite of the serpent, and the stroke which is given in the mid-day by the offspring of the serpent, the name of which is Tabaet.
It appears hat one of the "Watcher Class" Angels sins was in doing this to Mankind:
  • Gave them wisdom and ability to think. May be tuned up human's brain genetically.
  • Educated Mankind in various fields of sciences.
  • Provided Mankind with the same weapons the Gods (scientists/soldiers) had
  • Scientifically provided Mankind with immortality (possibly)
There was a mutiny in the sky. May be these 200 Angels were the liberals of the distant past. They came down, and for whatever reason decided to tune up the Mankind to the point of making them immortal, smart and dangerous. The initial Scientist's intent for the Mankind was:
  • to remain righteous and pure (see above), also known as dumb, stupid, obedient and illiterate on the genetic level.
The Wrongdoings of Mankind:
  • Bible:
    • Genesis 6.5 - And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
    • Genesis 6.11 - The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
    • Genesis 6.13 - And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
  • The Book of Enoch:
    • Nothing really was done wrong by the Mankind itself, but some of the Genetic "Improvements / Experiments" had gone wrong:
      • Nephilim giants devoured all which the labour of men produced; until it became impossible to feed them;
      • When they turned themselves against men, in order to devour them;
      • And began to injure birds, beasts, reptiles, and fishes, to eat their flesh one after another, and to drink their blood.
      • Then the earth reproved the unrighteous.
Conclusion: It is possible from the above, that there were at least 4-5 types of beings on Earth at the time.
  • Genetically improved educated men (including educated original ones but not modified)
  • Giants aka Nephilim (improvement gone wrong?)
  • Chimeras of various kind (humans mixed with animals, fishes, reptiles, etc)
  • "Watcher Class Angels" aka the split off Creators
Whether the Angel's intentions were good or bad, everything turned into a blood bath with Nephilim annihilating the improved Mankind. This "began to injure birds, beasts, reptiles, and fishes" sounds pretty disturbing. I have doubt we are talking about literal injuring, and eating here. I think we have these smart gigantic semi-Angelic beings genetically modifying the Mankind as well. Only they added some animal DNA and started making different chimera type monsters with human brains. Something like this guy below.

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Jubelees 7:24: And after this they sinned against the beasts and birds, and all that moves and walks on the earth: and much blood was shed on the earth, and every imagination and desire of men imagined vanity and evil continually.

KD opinion on the above #1: Essentially we had this "SkyLab" which created our Earth, its environment, humans and creatures. The "SkyLab" was naturally situated outside of the Earth Enclosure (dome if you will) but the lab staff was able to visit and inspect/work as was needed. This "SkyLab" had a strict hierarchy, where "God" was the top official. Whether this "God" was a sole commander, or some sort of a Board of Directors is irrelevant. "God" was in charge of the operations. They had multiple departments in charge of various areas of development. Both scientific and military capabilities can both be traced.

A group of the "SkyLab" rogue scientists and soldiers (Fallen Angels) decided to break the protocol. They went into the Earth Enclosure and altered the originally designed humans. I doubt that they went down to have sex due to the daughter's of men being fair. There was clearly a discussion between Samyaza and his subordinates on whether to proceed with the plan, and conduct this "incursion" or not.
  • We will never find out whether "Fallen Angels" were some "bleeding hearts" who could not stand this awful social injustice suffered by their creations, or wanted to advance some unauthorized scientific ideas of their own.
  • These events took place in the days of Jared.
  • They "came down" and introduced their own genetic, and other ideas into an existing ecosystem, where everything was designed to "code." Among everything else Rogue Scientists (Fallen Angels) artificially inseminated Earth women which lead to the emergence of modified humans aka Nephilim.
  • The actions of the Fallen Angels lead to their improved creations (Nephilim, and educated original humans) to develop creatures of their own (they sinned against the beasts and birds, and all that moves and walks on the earth.) Genetic modifications continued and human-animal hybrids were introduced. The earth ended up with a bunch of weird hungry creatures running around (and much blood was shed on the earth, and every imagination and desire of men imagined vanity and evil continually.)
  • Hence we get our Genesis 6.11 and 6.12:
    • Now the earth was corrupt in God's sight, and the earth was filled with violence.
    • And God saw the earth, and behold, it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth.
  • Some scholars believe that there could have been about 750 million people at the time of the Flood. However, given the extremely long lifespans prior to the Flood, the growth rate could have been much higher. Increasing the rate by just 0.001 would put the population at close to four billion at the Flood.
  • Somehow Noah ended up being the only righteous (aka genetically pure) human on Earth. We could probably add Noah's wife and three sons to this list of genetically pure people. Whether the wives of his sons were genetically pure is questionable. For better understanding watch Rob Skiba's video above.
  • The mutineers (Fallen Angels aka rogue scientists and soldiers)were sentenced to life in prison.
    • Banished from heaven, which could mean no possibility of return to their original habitat.
    • The "angels who sinned," Peter and Jude say, were cast down to Tartarus ("a place of restraint," a prison) where they are bound until God judges them. Decide for yourself whether we have cross-referencing of the Ancient Greek Titans here.
  • Nephilims lost their physical bodies due death. Their souls (AI) were not designed to return, cycle, recycle or do whatever the original scientific design prescribed souls to do. Allegedly their souls ended up being demons and such. This part is outside of my little article here. You are welcome to research yourself.


We have to read between the lines here. You do not run around messing with genetics while having a stone axe attached to your loincloth. It was a highly educated society which killed itself off with their own inventions and genetic experiments. They, most likely, had everything we have today X ∞ (infinity). Their technology had to be outside of anything we can possibly imagine. Science Fiction on drugs comes to mind. The reason they were so advanced was due to them receiving all the tech and knowledge from those (SkyLab Gods) who created them, and their environment. They could create a biorobot, and introduce mind, intelligence, morals and feelings into it. They could make it look whatever they wanted it to look, out of the material of their choice. And their own creations put an end to their world via the actual SkyLab scratching the project to start it over.

Important: One of the biggest mistakes could be us picturing the pre-flood world looking similar to the image below.

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In my opinion, that pre-Flood world had to look something like Naboo from the Star Wars.

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  • Once again, we can only guess the purpose of the Earth Enclosure creation. Whether somebody out there runs around creating Worlds for shit, and giggles, or they create Worlds to farm for goodies is irrelevant for the purposes of this article.
  • I deliberately call it "enclosure" for I do not believe for a second that we know what the shape of our so-called "Planet" is. We have been told, but have never been shown the true Earth. I think we live within an artificially limited space, and there are other Worlds out there, but these worlds have nothing to do with our traditional understanding of Space, Planets and Stars. This is just my opinion.
8. Operation "Great Flood"
Reset: Biblical Deluge
And God said to Noah, “I have determined to make an end of all flesh, for the earth is filled with violence through them. Behold, I will destroy them with the earth."

Most everything on Earth was genetically corrupt. I think there were other "righteous" (aka genetically pure) individuals on Earth. Yet, somebody with enough authority to wipe out everything on Earth, God was not powerful enough to simply say "Puff, I wish all the impurity to vanish." Questioning God's capabilities is blasphemous, but we have to be real instead of hiding behind the "divine intent" excuses.

The general picture of Noah and his Ark, coming to mind, should probably look something like this.

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At the same time, if there was ever such a thing as the Noah's Ark, then given my suggested technology levels of the time, it had to look similar to the craft below.

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Or may be like this, given the looks of the interior of our Great Eastern Leviathan.

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I would not exclude this type of an Ark either.

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Well, one way or the other, there was an event of the enormous magnitude and importance. In Scriptures, other Religions and Myths it became known as the Great Flood, or Deluge. The event, allegedly, killed everything on our Earth Enclosure. Weather it did or did not, we will hardly find out. The Bible says it did. As far as other sources go, I'm not that sure.

Everything above was just my paraphrasing, and personal understanding of the texts and interpretations of some of the "non-main stream" Biblical researchers. What follows below are thought of my own, and they will sound pretty wild, but give me a chance here.

9. BC or BCE
Never Existed?
It's funny and sad how our political correctness turned BC (times Before Christ) into BCE (times Before Common Era). Either way, they mean the exact same thing.

I was always wondering why we count our years from the birth of Jesus Christ, and what this Common Era really was. Being a supporter of the views expressed by Anatoly Fomenko, this count off date was not making any sense. So far not a single person was able to mathematically disprove Mr. Fomenko's calculations.

Fomenko was labeled by historians as a pseudo-scientist. I am talking about the same narrative supporting individuals, the likes of who gave us the below discoveries:
Labeled by the same kind of lying historians who are dumber than some semi-educated barbarians of the past. I call these historians liars, because they are incapable of putting their actions where their mouths are. I call them dumb, because they can not do what uneducated barbarians of the distant past could.
Done ranting, moving on. So, according to Fomenko, who figured out that historical debit (reality) does not match historical credit (narrative), Jesus Christ died in 1053 AD. I think at a later time he fine-tuned his dates to 1152 AD with the date of death of 1185 AD.

With the above in mind, our today's Year 2019 was not making any sense with regard to the birth date of Jesus Christ. It should be more like Year 867. Hence we have this dilemma of a thousand added years, with all of those "i, I , j, J's" in the mix.

KD thoughts: Jesus Christ was most definitely one of the most important figures in the history of mankind. Yet, his sacrifices are hardly more important than the end-result of Genesis 1. Yet, miserly humans totally disrespected the Creator and started to count years from the birth of Christ? To me it was plausible at best.

A few months ago I ran into the following book. This one is just an example, for it is well known that the Great Flood allegedly happened in the year 1656 after God created Earth. There are plenty of older similar books like the one dated with 1749 below.

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Read the rest HERE

10. Year 1656
Seeing this Year 1656 in the setting of a book was the first time when certain thoughts started to form. What if we do not count from Christ? What if we count from the creation of the Earth by the "SkyLab?" If Jesus Christ was not born 2019 years ago, than why do we count from the BC/AD split.

That said, I'm still with Matrix's Morpheus, who said:
  • I can’t tell you exactly what year it is because we honestly don’t know.
In my opinion, the above 1749 book cutout was not really done in 1749. Well, it was, but that 1749 was not the one which was supposed to come 93 years after 1656. This 1749 falls into Mr. J. J. Scaliger's dating system, which was corrupt from the very beginning. It was corrupt enough to be questioned by people like Isaac Newton, or so the narrative says. Scaliger himself placed his life span into 1540 AD - 1609 AD date range. I think this date range was after our 1656 Flood, but not by much.

It is important to understand that our time frames were seriously messed with. We have double, triple and quadruple time restarts where between 1656 and 1657, Scaliger defined 976 and 977, or 1343 and 1344 could be any given number of years. The best way to explain it would be us living in 2019 waking up tomorrow, and it is 1927 all over again. This makes all the years in between disappear. Simply stick a couple of Industrial Revolutions between 1927 and 1947, and keep on going with fake history.

While my dating gymnastics have to be pretty confusing at the moment, I hope you will develop a better understanding as we move along.

11. Antediluvian
The antediluvian (alternatively pre-diluvian or pre-flood period) is the time period referred to in the Bible between the fall of humans and the Genesis flood narrative in the biblical cosmology. The term found its way into early geology and science in the late Victorian era. Colloquially, the term is used to refer to any ancient and murky period.
We have this awesome tool available to us. I'm talking about the Google Ngram Viewer. It allows us to see when this or that language specific word was introduced into print. As you can see below, Ngram on "antediluvian" reflects the introduction of the word in the mid 1600's. Wikipedia is clearly lying to us, but what's new in that, right?

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Source

We need to remember, that according to the narrative, book printing in Europe started in 1455. Below you can see an approximate number of books printed between 1455 and 1800. Well, this is what The Narrative allows us to know.

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Source

This tool allows us to see, that the use of the word "antediluvian" started way before the late 1800s. From this perspective we have to be suspicious as to why the narrative wants us to think otherwise. Additionally we can see that the word "antediluvian" is placed within the mid-1600's range.

12. 1600's
This mid-1600's range is attractive enough to consider various possibilities. It is also worth further research, but here is what we have so far.

In addition to the above "antediluvian" we have:

1600s: Capriccio Artists
In painting, a capriccio means an architectural fantasy, placing together buildings, archaeological ruins and other architectural elements in fictional and often fantastical combinations. These painting may also include staffage (figures). Capriccio falls under the more general term of landscape painting. The term is also used for other artworks with an element of fantasy.
  • As you can see, with no proof, or documentation, several generations of artists were labeled as liars, albeit in a politically correct manner.
Meanwhile: Early practitioners of the genre who made the genre popular in mid-17th century Rome included Alessandro Salucci and Viviano Codazzi.
  • Alessandro Salucci: 1590 – 1655/60
  • Viviano Codazzi: c. 1604 – 1670
When you see the images below, ask yourself who you think was originally building, using and living in structures like these? How tall were those user-builders?

In my opinion these structures have very little to do with poor souls presented in the paintings.
  • These, I think, are our antediluvian buildings, the likes of which would later be attributed to the Ancient Greece, Rome and Egypt.
  • And what we see is the "some years later" aftermath of the Great Deluge.
Dark Ages
in my opinion
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Fantasy: Clearly, a lot of the buildings presented in these types of paintings were destroyed. Yet, a little bit of research demonstrates that the label of "architectural fantasy" is very misleading, and in my opinion was designed to hide our true past, and re-arrange dates.

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1600s: Maps, Cities, Lands
I started to consider, that a lot of the maps we are allowed to see are antediluvian maps. I also started to consider that a lot of the devastating urban, and geological events pointed to the mid 1600's. At least the below ones appear to. I am not going to go into details, for if you truly want to see what I mean these links should be sufficient enough.
What did our antediluvian maps looked like. Below are a few examples. I think they are somewhat properly dated, but were re-drawn, for the true antediluvian mapping technology was way better then that. For what the mapping tech before the Great Flood couldlook like, please visit this article here:
If we assume that the Great Flood killed off all the "abomination" and only righteous, genetically pure humans created by the SkyLab were allowed to exist... well, this mankind did not learn much, and Giants with Chimeras were brought back. The post-Flood society, which was still visited by the SkyLab representatives, rebounded back into a similar high-tech society it was before the flood. Giants can be traced via various items, and art depictions:
Nimrod somehow turned himself into a Giant, or so some scholars think. Additionally, we all should know about them 19th century newspaper articles about giant skeletons being discovered in droves left and right. Heck, they still lived in the 19th century.
  • Obviously 19th century architecture with humongous doorways and ceiling heights should be an indicator for some.

Yet, chimeras are less obvious. This obscurity can be attributed to the normal trick used by the narrative creators. We have plenty of examples, but all that stuff is just a fantasy of various authors. All this stuff is Post Flood.

Meanwhile the chimeras were present after the Flood all along. As we all know, Moses has strong historical ties with Egypt. Egypt was basically unknown till Mr. Napoleon visited it at the split of the 18/19th centuries. We should not be underestimating this early 19th century discovery of the "Ancient Egypt", for this 19th century discoveries are the epiphany of what we are dealing with here.

Moses was also the one having strong ties with the authorship of our Biblical Genesis. As we all know Moses spent his 40 years touring the desert. His route should allegedly look something like this.

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I do not want to spend time looking for the Exodus route distance. The length of the Earth Equator is 24,860 miles. If Moses had to walk the length of the equator, and had 40 years to do it, we would end up with:
  • 621.5 miles a year
  • 52 miles a month
  • 1.72 miles a day
We all understand that this speed is ridiculous, and while some traditionalists look for ways to explain these 40 years, we have to be real. 40 years from Egypt to Canaan is ridiculous.

I think to better understand what they were doing all these 40 years, would be to look at the fate of Jericho (Canaan), and Moses' assistant Joshua a.k.a. Jesus son of Naue or Jesus Navine. They were fighting and annihilating those who were not "righteous" per the SkyLab standards.

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Obviously due to dying, Moses did not quite make it to the end, so Jesus Navine Joshua took over. And what were the instructions for Canaan? Pretty similar instructions were for the most of the Promised Land, and for wherever else I would assume, given that some of the information most likely did not make it through time.

Instructions:
  • Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”​
  • However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.
  • Completely destroy them - the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites - as the Lord your God has commanded you.
I do not know if I am the only one who sees the resemblance between Canaan and:
Guess who was from Canaan. Our friend Saint Christopher was. According to the legendary account of his life Christopher was initially called Reprobus. He was a Canaanite, 5 cubits (7.5 feet) tall and with a fearsome face. And here is what he allegedly looked like.

It is fairly obvious, that by the SkyLab's standards, none of the annihilated cities were inhibited by the "righteous" population. Though it is probably safe to assume that a few genetically pure humans could be visiting at the time.
  • Chimeras and Hybrids were getting wiped out by the God's forces.​
Battle of Jericho
I'm pretty sure that today's Jericho is not one and the same with the one destroyed by the trumpets, but we only need the weapons used during the Battle of Jericho.
  • The Battle of Jericho is an incident from the Book of Joshua, being the first battle fought by the Israelites in the course of the conquest of Canaan. According to Joshua 6:1–27, the walls of Jericho fell after the Israelites marched around the city blowing their trumpets.
I deliberately left the trumpets wiki link intact, for this is a very good demonstration of the faking of our true history. If anyone out there thinks that they can collapse city walls with trumpets like below, I'm sorry.

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In the case with the Battle of Jericho, we can clearly see that pretty powerful "Mahabharata-type" weapons were used. The tech was hidden from us, and replaced with horses and trumpets.

We think that camels and horses were their tech, yet it was still the same SkyLab tech available to those Warriors of God, and 40 years could be enough to clean up the entire Earth.

Jesus Christ
Jesus we will get to a bit later. There are a few additional areas I need to cover before we get to the Savior. Yet I wanted to make a few speculations right here. As we all know, his textbook parents were Virgin Mary and Joseph. This, of course, is oxymoronic, and it is well known who the fatherhood is attributed to: the head of the SkyLab a.k.a. the Almighty God.
  • In my opinion all the employees of the SkyLab, including Top Managers, shared the same DNA.
  • Essentially, the impregnation of Virgin Mary was done the exact same way the "fair daughters of men" were impregnated in Genesis 6. The end result had to be the same. Genesis 6 produced Nephilims. So, I will just leave it at that.
Additionally, what past, present and future sins did Jesus have to die on the cross for? Was it for somebody stealing a soda, or was it for this Mankind continually messing with genetics? And what cross was it, for some are deadlier than others.

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13. 19th Century +/-
Ancient Rome, Greece and Egypt
1760-1915​
We have several sets of dates to work with. The reason I called this bullet "19th Century +/-" is because I think we are dealing with the following dates:
  • Beginning: 1760​
  • End: 1915​
  • Intermediary dates
    • First Industrial Revolution: 1760 to 1840
    • Second Industrial Revolution: 1870 to 1914
    • Dead Zone: 1840 to 1870
Antiquity vs. 19th Century
Our beloved 19th century is funny in a non-funny way. If you build a mental visual picture of everything you know about Ancient Greece, Rome and Egypt, and subtract everything we learned about those in the 19th century, your mental visual picture will be blank.

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This guy below is Julius Caesar, prior to us "figuring out" in the 19th Century what Julius Caesar should look like. If you want to see what Hector, Cleopatra and Alexander the Great looked like, you can visit the below articles:
Pre-19th Century Julius Caesar
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When did we learn what Julius Caesar was supposed to look like, and was it done to please the current narrative?
As a matter of fact just about every single of those "ancient" statues and busts you can see in various museums was discovered after 1760. This is why museums do not advertise the discovery date, for people would see the pattern real quick. Naturally, enjoy your 80BC or 67AD dates, and ask no questions about when we found this thing.
With Ancient Egypt it is much easier. Only after Napoleon's visit did it become popular, and somewhat trendy. Rosetta stone was "located" during Mr. Napoleons expedition, by the way.

Additionally, the entire continent of Africa looked ridiculously empty in 1802, as compared to antediluvian 1570.

Back to Ancient Rome and Greece, as they relate to the 19th century, we go. This “cultural awakening” is a huge red flag, and we have to fly it with pride for everyone to see that something is seriously wrong with our history.

For the longest time I was puzzled by this 19th century (+ late 18th) infatuation with Ancient Rome and everything pertaining to it. While we do not really see this infatuation being specifically demonstrated in schools these days, the fact is undeniable. In reality, things are way beyond being simply weird. To put certain occurrences in perspective, we need to look at some of the Ancient Rome narrative compliant dates:
  • Established: 753 BC
  • Collapsed: 476 AD
And here, all over sudden, only a lazy country does not start building structures looking similar to this one from Argentina.

In addition, our political and military leaders ended up being depicted wearing Roman Togas (Peter the Great's statue is dated with 1782.)

Totality of circumstances: taking this miraculous reappearance of the 1,500+ year old Antiquity around the 19th century, augmented by an enormous amount of archaeological discoveries of the "Ancient Roman and Greek" stuff, in consideration, a reasonable person should start asking questions. Like: where all this stuff was before? Indeed, how come it was not located prior? I have only one answer to these questions:
  • These discoveries were made immediately after the collapse of these so-called "Ancient Rome, Greece and Egypt."​
  • They were made immediately after this world, once again, had enough people to care about finding things​
KD Conclusion: This entire toga wearing society, which included Giants had nothing to do with the "antiquity". It existed barely prior to 1800, and possibly bled into the 19th century. This is why all the statues, and busts were still in the ground to be found. The reason they were buried was what we call the Mud Flood. The Mud Flood which had nothing to do with our traditional understanding of floods.

14. World Population
I will throw this into the mix without much explanation, for everything was already explained in the article below. There is nothing normal about this chart. This chart is a lie, in my opinion, and a dead giveaway that stuff is seriously messed up.
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15. Jesus Christ and Napoleon
Christ, Anti-Christ and Alexander I.​
Now, this here is going to be too much for an unprepared person to take. I am not sure where to place the first coming of Jesus in my sequence of events, but I might have an idea when the second took place. We all should know the Last Judgement aka the Day of the Lord (SkyLab Boss) thing.

What will be the signs of Jesus’ coming and the end of the world? This was the very same question Jesus’ disciples asked. Jesus’ answer to them and to us is found in Matthew 24:37-39:
  • As the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that [Noah] entered into the ark, and knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be.
It appears that during the first coming Jesus informed under what circumstances he could return. Essentially the exact same thing as the one in the days of Noah had to happen. Where the time of this prophecy is located on the real timeline of the World events, I do not know. We have the narrative version, but that one I do not trust. So you judge for yourself which coming of Jesus I will be talking about.

Napoleon was Jesus Christ?
Kutuzov was Anti-Christ?
Alexander I was... "I don't know who"
Field Marshal Kutuzov was Napoleon's main battlefield opponent during the war of 1812. Alexander I was the Tsar of Russia, and Kutuzov's boss, allegedly, of course.

First things first: the biography of Napoleon Bonaparte has nothing to do with the true Napoleon. It could have been compiled out of a few biographies of people whose names we will never find out. There had to be some information to fill in the time void, and the void was filled.

At the time of writing this Tartary article, I noticed that Napoleon and Alexander I appeared to be fighting on the same side, which was supported by multiple bizarre instances. Among those was their simultaneous presence on various awards. This makes exactly ZERO sense in the narrative compliant historical context.

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Strength is in the unity: will of God, firmness of royalty, love for homeland and people.
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Could it be possible that Jesus Christ is being hidden behind Napoleon's identity. Well, let us start with the name. What kind of name is Napoleon? Where else do we see it prior to Napoleon Bonaparte? Nowhere would probably be not far from the truth.

At the same time we have a name, which sounds very close to Napoleon. The name is obviously Apollyon, aka Apollo. According to multiple non-narrative scholars, and Bible enthusiasts Apollo is/was the Anti-Christ.

Napoleon could be n'Apollyon or Not Apollyon, as in exactly the opposite from Anti-Christ. Napoleon's Funeral kind of gives out the vibe that it was not a mere mortal getting laid to rest.


Meanwhile, this 1855 Anglo-American Magazine suggests that Napoleon was indeed Apollyon. At the very least, it suggests that barely 34 years after the Napoleon's death there were some people questioning his identity. As far as I understand, the author suggests that the name Napoleon merely signifies an allegory of an evil state of anarchy, cruelty and destruction that "spread far and wide."

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Source

The real kicker is in the words written on his tomb.

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Sure enough, we can dismiss this "giant's head" as an allegory, but this practice of dismissal got us into this "historical" mess in first place.

Add to the above getting buried inside of six coffins:
  • In 1840 Napoléon Bonaparte was buried under the Dôme des Invalides- large church in Paris. The sarcophagus was put up on a green granite pedestal and contains a nest of six coffins.
    • 1. soft iron
    • 2. mahogany
    • 3, 4. two of lead
    • 5. ebony
    • 6. oak
Naturally, I do not know the significance of being buried in six coffins, but it has to mean something. Technically, together with the sarcophagus we get 7 coffins, and that should suggest that Napoleon was the Anti-Christ and not Kutuzov.
Of course, with Napoleon hypothetically being the Anti-Christ, and given his funeral date of 1840, that would mean that Anti-Christ prevailed. Fortunately we have a pretty decent indicator that Mr. Kutuzov could have been our Anti-Christ.
  • Revelation 13:3
    • And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
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Allegedly our Mr. Kutuzov was shot in the head two times, but that was not enough to get him killed:
  • The first bullet "ran through the head from one temple to the other behind both eyes." The second bullet entered the cheek, destroyed upper teeth, traveled through the head, and exited the occiput. Massot, a French surgeon with the Russian army, wrote after treating Kutuzov's seemingly two mortal wounds: "It must be believed that fate appoints Kutuzov to something great, because he was still alive after two injuries, a death sentence by all the rules of medical science."
  • Kutuzov's heart was buried separately from his body. Apparently it was a common thing back then, or so they say.
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Anyways, you do what you will with the above blasphemous information, but I think we could be witnessing a very well camouflaged second coming of Jesus, though I'm not sure which coming, and who exactly was Jesus.

As far as Alexander I goes, I have no idea how he factors into all of this. There probably is something, but I do not see any leads to follow.

16. The Last Judgement
I think the consequences of various "urban fires" and "earthquakes" could be the result of the events accompanying the Last Judgement. People on Earth were still engaging in genetic manipulation, and what was supposed to happen, did happen. Some time between 1770 and 1915 an event, or series of events wiped out most of the entire population of Earth.

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I'm inclined to think that it was done via the use of some SkyLab quality weapons capable of producing lakes, and altering terrain features:
We all know the aftermath of this "clean up."

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It could be, that everything organic was killed of some time in the 19th century. This includes regular most of the humans and animals, as well as all giants, chimeras and 99% of the trees. Our 19th century photographs with Men in Black could be controllers adjusting the setup for the next wave.

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17. Industrial Revolution
Somewhere above I mentioned three time spans as they pertain to our Industrial Revolutions:
  • First Industrial Revolution: 1760 to 1840
  • Second Industrial Revolution: 1870 to 1914
  • Dead Zone: 1840 to 1870
Well, I think we only had one (not including Tesla project), and it was an injection which points directly towards 1840-1870 gap. I could say that it was in 1850 -1860's for this is where most of our invention patents point to, but such dating would not be logically correct. The patents we are presented with were most likely technological injections made without our direct participation. It was simply the technology we would be allowed to develop, once all the reset and re-population activities were complete, and this Mankind was, once again, ready to move forward with its day to day Reality Show. You can dig through this blog section for the tech I'm talking about.



KD: Well, this is more or less the sequence of events I can picture based on the "between the lines" totality of circumstances. How many years were not counted towards our current total of 2019 would be a nice thing to find out. Yet, I have very strong doubts that this Mankind is in control of its own destiny.

I fully understand how nutts it sounds, but 3,000 year old talking Chinese pants are much funnier, IMHO.


As far as opinions of our qualified historians (about my little article here) go, I am ready to consider them when you either make a few vases like this, or explain (BS-free) who, when, how and why cut a whole bunch of huge rocks (like these Al-Naslaa, and Devils Marbles ones) in half.

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I read that Anglo American magazine you cited. While the info may be solid regarding Apollyon/Napoleon (I don't know), the story itself, "A Case Of Clairvoyance" looks like it's a fictional tale of a guy who traveled to the 31st century and listened to historians of the time discuss his time period. He is told at the beginning of the story to not correct assumptions that are incorrect about his time. He is told Indians harvested weeds to soak in water, then drank the water and tossed the weeds. This is obviously referring to tea, but his futuristic cabbie is repeating a legend about the past there.

It is interesting, and there is often truth in fiction, but it does not seem to be a testimony to the truth of things, so much as a short story printed in a magazine.

The rest of the articles, poetry, and stories are also interesting, but not on topic of your post.
 
Seems like we are on the Star Trek trajectory, I don't know if this is a real thing but from what I remember from this series (Star Trek: Enterprise) that the earth went through some pretty rough times culminating in the eugenics wars(genetic manipulation) that led to almost complete collapse of civilisation.
Old Bill Shatner has also been caught a couple of times saying that there is very little difference between science and science fiction.

Although i think we are still in the early stages of these kind of things and nowhere near being able to recreate(synthetically) life as we understand it right now, I mean this in a technological sense as much as an ethical one, yet the use of legislation to prevent it is almost certainly about as effective as the legislation that is supposed to prevent manipulation of the weather and we all know how effective that isn't.

Some tough time ahead I think, certainly some growing pains if as a race/species we want to evolve past what we are now, but to be honest i don't think i could even categorise what that may be.

Interesting times.
 
Seems like we are on the Star Trek trajectory,

Star Trek, created by Gene Roddenberry, who is closely associated with the "Council of Nine":

The Council of Nine describes themselves, through their two-decades channeller Phyllis Schlemmer, as "a circle of universal beings living outside time and space."

In the 1993 compendium of their dialogues with various of their human questioners, among them Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry and many, many others including heads of state and international business and philosophical personalities... this group of "off-planet intelligence complexes" tells their story, which if one is to give credence to this process and its information, may be to some degree, "our" story also.
This channeling sort of set the stage for the extension of the "New Age" movement in the second half of the 20th century and other channeled materials. People argue about how much Roddenberry incorporated this information into Star Trek, but it's somewhat indisputable that the Federation and it's Prime Directive (of non-interference) come almost directly from this material. This is a bit beyond the scope of this article (haha, which tries to cover history starting with the creation of Earth!), but does make me wonder about a possible connection to this, given the "Star Trek" trajectory:

Nephilims lost their physical bodies due death. Their souls (AI) were not designed to return, cycle, recycle or do whatever the original scientific design prescribed souls to do. Allegedly their souls ended up being demons and such.

Overall, I like KD's speculations here, though personally, I think we are dealing with multiple levels of creation. I have no problem entertaining the possibility that human beings (and other, now missing creatures) were created by other physical creatures. I am less sure of what exactly created the entire physical Earth realm and think it's highly possible that no physical entity has ever been able to discern this. It's possible that the physical plane has always existed or was created by a true, non-corporal God-like Creator being, who is more or less uninvolved with us (if you hold a gun to my head, I lean Gnostic, it seems...)

"Artificially enclosed" can mean a lot of things to me too. The globe model creates a limit to our world that most will never venture beyond. The nature of gas pressure (requiring containment) does seem to indicate that we live in some sort of enclosure, but when we start rolling everything back to the point of creation, the difference between "artificial" and "natural" gets super murky. I'm not even sure that there's a meaningful difference in those terms or whether they're even applicable. Their usual usage is seemingly rooted in human exceptionalism, meaning "natural" is simply "not done by man" with "man" becoming a substitute for "intelligence." When water erodes land, we consider this "natural", as we consider that the water itself does not possess the consciousness and free will to make decisions. Is that even accurate? And even if it is, what created the nature of water itself, with its inherent properties?

I think pondering all of this seems to generally lead back to the necessity of a "higher intelligence" but one could then ponder what created that "higher intelligence" and so on. Either way, it seems eventually you're truly staring into infinity...

Basically, to summarize my drivel, I wouldn't necessarily assume that the creators of humanity are the same as The Creator of our overall reality.
 
Basically, to summarize my drivel, I wouldn't necessarily assume that the creators of humanity are the same as The Creator of our overall reality.
The Gnostic point of view-- more or less: a creator God above the god of the Old Testament.

The knowing (i.e., Gnostic) individual experiences this reality as a stranger in a strange land.

No shortage of Gnostic renewal made possible by regular returns to the crime scene called Stolen History.
 
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Not to rehash a retiring thread, but I stumbled upon this and felt a pretty meaningful parallel. On another tear about the reason/meaning of the names of our planets and the historical context of those names… I learned that Uranus is a modernized spelling of Ouranos, the god of the skies. Some interesting lore about his brass embellished firmament presiding over us, but more interestingly this excerpt:

“Gaia suffered immense pain and persuaded her Titan sons to rebel. Four of these positioned themselves at the corners of the world, ready to grasp their father as he descended to lie with Earth, while the fifth, Kronos (Cronus), took his place in the centre and there castrated Ouranos with an adamantine sickle. The sky-god's blood fell upon the earth, producing the avenging Erinyes and the Gigantes (Giants).”

I found this here

I find it curious when similar stories are told by different story tellers, as if there’s some universal truth which has been… muddled by multigenerational games of cultural “telephone”
 
“They called him a liar, but We saved him and his followers in the Ark, and We drowned those who denied Our revelations. They were blind.”
The Elevations-64 Quran chapter 7
 
Found several creation myths with echoes of your theories.

Meaning of Taoism

Taoist

ln the taoist story of creation "the giant Pan Ku, was born as well. As he grew, his sheer size divided the heavens and the earth. The giant lived for another 18,000 years. With the assistance of four creatures, a tortoise, a phoenix, a dragon, and a unicorn, he labored daily to mold the earth. Together they created the world as we know it today."

Meaning of Taoism

There were makers in the sea, together called the Plumed Serpent. There were makers in the sky, together called the Heart of Sky. Together these makers planned the dawn of life.

The earth arose because of them. It was simply their word that brought it forth. It arose suddenly, like a cloud unfolding. Then the mountains were separated from the water. All at once great mountains came forth. The sky was set apart, and the earth was set apart in the midst of the waters.

Then the makers in the sky planned the animals of the mountains — the deer, pumas, jaguars, rattlesnakes, and guardians of the bushes. Then they established the nests of the birds, great and small. “You precious birds; your nests are in the trees and bushes.” Then the deer and birds were told to talk to praise their makers, to pray to them. But the birds and animals did not talk; they just squawked and howled. So they had to accept that their flesh would be eaten by others.

The makers tried again to form a giver of respect, a creature who would nurture and provide. They made a body from mud, but it didn’t look good. It talked at first but then crumbled and disintegrated into the water.

Then the Heart of Sky called on the wise ones, the diviners, the Grandfather Xpiyacoc and the Grandmother Xmucane, to help decide how to form a person. The Grandparents said it is well to make wooden carvings, human in looks and speech. So wooden humans came into being; they talked and multiplied, but there was nothing in their minds and hearts, no memory of their builder, no memory of Heart of Sky.


R: memory of the heart of the sky? could this be the hub in space they came from?

Then there came a great destruction. The wooden carvings were killed when the Heart of Sky devised a flood for them. It rained all day and all night. The animals came into the homes of the wooden carvings and ate them. The people were overthrown. The monkeys in the forest are a sign of this. They look like the previous people — mere wooden carvings.

The story continues with the final people being made from corn, an important crop that enabled the Maya to move from being a hunting-and-gathering society to a more complex civilization.



Nigerian Efik origin story


Origin Story: Efik (article) | Khan Academy


R: this story sort of reflects your theories, if you think of "the sky" as being a spaceship, and the 2 first people being genetically modified creations or pets, visiting/exploring the earth from this other location.

Before Abassi there was nothing. Abassi was god of the Universe, and giver of life, death, and justice. He was so powerful that he could create life, heal the sick, and even raise the dead. Some say that Abassi was the Sun, and they worshipped it as it rose and set every day. Abassi lived in the sky with his wife, Atai. She was a wise goddess, who often gave Abassi good advice.

Abassi created the stars, the Earth, and all the wildlife upon it. He also created two humans, a man and a woman. These humans lived with Abassi and Atai in the sky. They were very innocent and had little knowledge. Abassi and Atai looked after them, protected them, and even fed them, because they did not know how to feed themselves. One day, the humans were looking down from the sky at the Earth. They decided they wanted to live there. But when they asked Abassi if they could leave the sky and live on the Earth, he forbade it. The Earth was a place with many secrets where many things could be learned. Abassi feared that the humans would one day match his wisdom, or even surpass it.

Atai proposed a compromise. The humans could go live on Earth, but they had to return to the sky every day to have their meals. The humans were forbidden to learn to hunt or farm. They were also forbidden to marry and have children, because a large nation of people might one day challenge the power of Abassi.

For a while, this plan worked. The humans returned to the sky every day to take their meals. However, one day, the woman decided she was sick of being fed like a helpless child. She went out into the fields and began to farm. When the time came for dinner, she defiantly refused to return to the sky with the man.

The next day, the man visited the woman in the fields and saw she was growing her own food. He decided to help her. Before long, the man and woman fell in love. They did not return to the sky again. Many years went by and they had many children. When those children were old enough, they joined their parents working in the field. They all continued to learn the secrets of the Earth and teach them to each other.

The humans tried to hide their children from the sight of Abassi, but the god saw them. He grew very angry. He blamed his wife, Atai, because she had convinced him to let the humans live on Earth. Abassi feared that one day, the humans would have learned so much that they would surpass his wisdom. He also feared they would grow so numerous that they would surpass his power

But Atai had a plan. In order to prevent the humans from growing too powerful, she sent evil into the world in the form of death and discord. The evil was so strong that the man and woman immediately died. Their children have suffered the ills of the world and argued among themselves ever since. But because their mother defied the gods, the humans have continued to learn the secrets of the Earth.

R: I think stories of humans being made from corn or wood definitely seems to have echoes of genetic manipulation, were these materials the DNA that was used to create these beings?
 
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I’ve been teetering on the brink of falling down the DNA rabbit hole myself… looking at not necessarily chimeric creations, but foods. Monsanto and GMO are relatively recent, but there’s a whole lot of evidence of crop modification over the centuries.

it seems like “life” is like a Lego kit. A lot of the same pieces, just a different instruction booklet on how to assemble and use those pieces.

humans share 40-60% dna similarity with bananas
How Much DNA Do Humans Share with Bananas?

Humans and pigs
Human to Pig Genome Comparison Complete

A lengthier list of comparison:
How Much DNA Do Humans Share With Other Animals and Plants?
 
Cannot figure out how to post the video to keep it clean Korben, sorry.

However this is one way to split big boulders with manpower, hammer and chisel alone.
I'm sure there are better practitioners, tools and methods but still its impressive and few alive today would know such a thing is possible.

 
More Skylab myths:

Uganda creation myth: Kintu

Kintu is a mythological figure who appears in a creation myth of the Uganda people of Buganda, Uganda.[1] According to this legend, Kintu was the first person on earth and the first man to wander the plains of Uganda alone.

In the creation myth recorded by Harry Johnston, Kintu appears on the plains of Uganda with a cow which was his only possession and he fed on its milk and cow dung before being rewarded bananas and millet from the sky god, Ggulu. Before his encounter with Ggulu, Kintu meets a woman named Nnambi and her sister who had come from the sky. They first take his beloved cow to Ggulu to prove his humanness and to seek Ggulu's permission of his admission into the sky. Once arriving in the sky, Kintu's humanness is tested by Ggulu through five consecutive trials, each one trickier and more difficult than the last. However, Kintu is able to come out of each trial victorious with the assistance of an unidentified divine power. Ggulu is impressed with Kintu's wit and resilience, rewarding his efforts with his daughter Nnambi and many agricultural gifts as dowry which included: bananas, potatoes, beans, maize corn, ground-nuts, and a hen. From this point, Kintu was given the basic materials to be able to create life in Uganda. However, before leaving the sky, Kintu and Nnambi were warned by Ggulu not to come back for any reason as they made their journey back to Earth for fear that Nnambi's brother, Walumbe (meaning "disease" and "death" in Bantu), would follow them back to Earth and cause them great trouble. Kintu and Nnambi disregarded Ggulu's warning and Kintu returned to the sky to fetch the millet the hen had to feel on while on earth that Nnambi had left behind and in his short time there, Walumbe had figured Nnambi's whereabouts and convinced Kintu to allow him to live with them on Earth. Upon seeing Walumbe accompanying Kintu on their way down from the sky, Nnambi at first denied her brother but Walumbe eventually persuaded her into allowing him to stay with them.[2]

Kaluli creation myth: Kaluli creation myth

The Kaluli creation myth is a traditional creation myth of the Kaluli people of Papua New Guinea. In the version as was recorded by anthropologist and ethnographer Edward L. Shieffelin whose first contact with them took place in the late 1960s. The story begins in a time the Kaluli call hena madaliaki, which translates "when the land came into form." During the time of hena madaliaki people covered the earth but there was nothing else: no trees or plants, no animals, and no streams. With nothing to use for food or shelter, the people became cold and hungry. Then one man among them (alternative accounts give two) gathered everyone together and delegated different tasks. He directed one group to become trees and they did. He directed another to become sago, yet another to be fish, another banana and so forth until the world was brimming with animals, food, streams, mountains and all other natural features. There were only a few people left and they became the ancestors of present-day human beings.

Oneida creation Myth:
Oneida Nation | Creation Story

Long ago, before there was any land here there was water all over, the only things were the creatures that lived in the water and the birds that flew above the waters. Now, further above there was land which was called the Sky World and there were people living there, but these people had supernatural powers. In the middle of the land was a great tree which gave them their light. There were many different fruits on the tree, this is where their light came from, the fruits.
Now the rule was that no one could cut into the tree or a great punishment would by given to that person, whoever was caught harming the tree. Now there was this young couple and the young woman was to have a baby. This woman started to crave things and one of the things she craved was the roots and bark from the tree, so she asked her husband to go and gather this for her. He was afraid to get these because he would surely be punished. He waited for the people to go from the tree. As they all left he went over and started digging.
As he was digging, suddenly the ground caved in and it left a big hole in the ground by the tree. The man got very scared of what had happened, so he went back and told his wife what had happened and she asked if he got what she had wanted. He told her he did not because he got so scared. She got very mad and said she would get it herself.
As she got to the tree she saw the hole, she went over to get a closer look. As she was looking through she saw all the water down below. She did not know that her husband followed her. As she was looking through, she fell through the hole. As she was falling she tried to grasp hold of something so she would not fall. All she could get was some of the ground and roots of the tree. But she could not hold on and she fell through. As she fell through the birds and water animals saw a light through the hole that was made and they could see something falling. So the birds went up to see what it was and they noticed that it was a woman from the Sky World.
So they sent one of the birds back down to tell the water animals to see which one of them was able to support her upon their back. Then they talked among one another to see who was able to support her. So they turned to the great turtle and she agreed. All the birds went up to bring the woman down safely on the turtles back.

The Caribs were the first people on earth. After them came the Warau from a land beyond the sky, rich in birds of rare beauty but without animals of any kind. No deer grazed on its grassy plains, no jaguar roamed through its scattered woods, no fish swam in its clear, shallow streams. Instead there were large flocks of birds of rare beauty. Some of these the Warau killed for food; and each man made for himself from the feathers of the birds a richly coloured headdress for wearing at great festivals.
I’ve been teetering on the brink of falling down the DNA rabbit hole myself… looking at not necessarily chimeric creations, but foods. Monsanto and GMO are relatively recent, but there’s a whole lot of evidence of crop modification over the centuries.

it seems like “life” is like a Lego kit. A lot of the same pieces, just a different instruction booklet on how to assemble and use those pieces.

humans share 40-60% dna similarity with bananas
How Much DNA Do Humans Share with Bananas?

Humans and pigs
Human to Pig Genome Comparison Complete

A lengthier list of comparison:
How Much DNA Do Humans Share With Other Animals and Plants?
Your article about humans sharing DNA with bananas is interesting!
"Banana type myths are myths regarding the origin of death and the short life span of humans which are found in many countries and regions, mainly in southeast Asia and New Guinea.

The term was coined by Sir James George Frazer (1854 - 1941), a social anthropologist in Scotland, because bananas commonly appear as an important item in the myths."
Iriquois creation myth:

The Earth was a thought in the mind of the ruler of a great island floating above the clouds.
This ruler was called by various names, among them Ha-wen-ni-yu, meaning He who governs or The Ruler. The island is a place of calm where all needs are provided and there is no pain or death. On this island grew a great apple tree where the inhabitants held council. The Ruler said, "let us make a new place where another people can grow. Under our council tree is a great sea of clouds which calls out for light." He ordered the council tree to be uprooted and he looked down into the depths. He had Ata-en-sic, Sky Woman, look down. As he heard the voice of the sea calling; he told Ata-en-sic, who was pregnant, to bring it life. He wrapped her in light and dropped her down through the hole.

All the birds and animals who lived in the great cloud sea were panicked. The Duck asked "where can it rest?" "Only the earth can hold it," replied the Beaver—the oeh-dah from the bottom of our great sea—"I will get some." The Beaver dove down, but never came up. Then the Duck tried, but its dead body floated to the surface. Many of the other birds and animals tried and failed. Finally, the Muskrat returned with some earth in his paws. "It's heavy", he said, "who can support it?" The Turtle volunteered, and the earth was placed on top of his shell. When the earth was ready the birds flew up and carried Ata-en-sic on their wings to the Turtle's back.

This is how Hah-nu-nah, the Turtle, came to be the earth bearer. When he moves the sea gets rough and the earth shakes.
this story reminds me of your Ephesus thread:

The Do-yo-da-no
Once brought to at the surface, the oeh-dah grew and became an island. Ata-en-sic heard two voices under her heart and knew her time had come. One voice was calm and quiet, but the other was loud and angry. These were the Do-yo-da-no, The Twins. The good twin, Hah-gweh-di-yu or Teharonhiakwako, was born in the normal way. The evil twin, Hä-qweh-da-ět-gǎh or Sawiskera, forced his way out from under his mother's arm, killing her.

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Here is a very interesting blog I found when searching for the Creation of the World in the Star Temple.

I wouldn’t know where to begin copying/pasting, so I’ll just offer a few key takeaways (of mine) and you can read or disregard at will.

the creation of the world in the Russian calendar was not a biblical creation, but the signing of a peace treaty amongst warring tribes. The world has existed (according to the assertions) far longer than that, and the “peace treaty” was an event of such great magnitude (ie: Jesus) it was worthy of counting from.

our known (to select few) history goes back hundreds of thousands of years.

we are exiting an ice age caused by the accidental destruction of our second moon, which fell to earth and caused our world to tilt, creating new lands and submerging old.

I have no idea who the author is, or how accurate my iPhone translation is, but this blogger has several entries about the Russian calendar
 
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